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From: Liu Ying <victor.liu@nxp.com>
To: Luca Ceresoli <luca.ceresoli@bootlin.com>,
	Andrzej Hajda <andrzej.hajda@intel.com>,
	Neil Armstrong <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>,
	Robert Foss <rfoss@kernel.org>,
	Laurent Pinchart <Laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Jonas Karlman <jonas@kwiboo.se>,
	Jernej Skrabec <jernej.skrabec@gmail.com>,
	Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	David Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>, Simona Vetter <simona@ffwll.ch>
Cc: Marco Felsch <m.felsch@pengutronix.de>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm/bridge: Fix refcount shown via debugfs for encoder_bridges_show()
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2026 10:04:27 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <df7006cb-d1dd-4a72-8ef0-2f27ca0143cd@nxp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DH45VL1LHCP3.2MWX4VKP46H04@bootlin.com>

On Mon, Mar 16, 2026 at 12:14:23PM +0100, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
> Hello Liu, Maxime,
> 
> On Mon Mar 16, 2026 at 10:47 AM CET, Liu Ying wrote:
>>>>>>> @Maxime: based on the issue Liu is trying to work around, do you think it
>>>>>>> would make sense to go back to the initial approach for that series?
>>>>>>> I.e. drm_for_each_bridge_in_chain_scoped() grabs the chain lock, which is a
>>>>>>> superset of the per-bridge refcount, and thus the refcount can be dropped?
>>>>>>> This would remove the debugfs issue, slightly simplify
>>>>>>> drm_for_each_bridge_in_chain_scoped(), and introduce no new issues AFAIK.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just my take on the chain lock approach - I agree Maxime's comment on [v2]
>>>>>> that keeping the get/put is a better than using the chain lock to ensure
>>>>>> the refcount is correct.  The chain lock could be added later on if needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, no, adding the chain mutex is necessary(*), otherwise Thread A could
>>>>> iterate over the chain while thread B is adding/removing bridges to/from
>>>>> the chain.
>>>>>
>>>>> And the chain mutex is a superset of the per-bridge refcount, so when
>>>>> adding the mutex the refcount inside drm_for_each_bridge_in_chain_scoped()
>>>>> becomes useless (and slightly hurting as it makes the refcount shown in
>>>>> debugfs inconsistent, as you noticed).
>>>>
>>>> For better code readability, I think keeping the get/put is fine even if
>>>> you add a lock
>>>
>>> The [v4] code with the removal of the extra refcount would not be more
>>> complex. It would be a bit less code (no need for the DEFINE_FREE and
>>> __free()). Maybe it'd need an extra comment to clarify when the
>>> drm_bridge_put() is called.
>>>
>>> [v4] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260113-drm-bridge-alloc-encoder-chain-mutex-v4-4-60f3135adc45@bootlin.com/
>>>
>>>> (maybe RCU list is better than mutex, since the chain is
>>>> read often).  That follows the idea that you mentioned in [1]: "every
>>>> pointer to a drm_bridge stored somewhere is a reference to a bridge".
>>>
>>> That's true. However while it's an important pointer hygiene rule for
>>> device drivers, for core code it's OK to deviate when there is a reason.
>>>
>>>> Plus, seems no performance issue with the get/put, as discussed in [v2].
>>>
>>> I confirm performance is surely not an issue here.
>>>
>>> All that said, I'm OK with either option:
>>>
>>>  * no ref taken when the mutex is added
>>>  * ref taken when the mutex is added (as v4) + your patch to fix debugfs
>>
>> Maybe consider to take this patch first, since it doesn't hurt.
> 
> Yes, especially as the current debugfs output is non-intuitive.

Agreed.

> 
>> Even if
>> we end up with the first option, the refcount is supposed to be correct
>> anyway.
> 
> Well, if we apply this patch and then go for option 1 then this patch shall
> be removed, or the refcount shown would be one-less than the expected
> value, instead of one-more as it is now.

I meant that if we go for option 1, then a single patch may introduce the
protection for the chain with the mutex/RCU list(whatever), plus remove
the change done by this patch.  This way, the refcount would be consistent
over time.

> 
>> Luca, do you think this patch deserves at least an A-b tag from you if not
>> a R-b tag?
> 
> I've been waiting a bit in case Maxime or someone else wanted to chime
> in. I'm reviewing it now.

Thanks.

> 
> Luca
> 
> --
> Luca Ceresoli, Bootlin
> Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
> https://bootlin.com/

-- 
Regards,
Liu Ying

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-17  2:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-12  6:05 Liu Ying
2026-03-12 17:30 ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-03-13  8:33   ` Liu Ying
2026-03-13  9:57     ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-03-13 10:22       ` Liu Ying
2026-03-13 17:32         ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-03-16  9:47           ` Liu Ying
2026-03-16 11:14             ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-03-17  2:04               ` Liu Ying [this message]
2026-03-17  8:15                 ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-03-16 11:15 ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-03-17  2:35   ` Liu Ying
2026-03-17  8:15     ` Luca Ceresoli

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