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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com>,
	Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] virtio-balloon: make it spec compliant
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2024 05:09:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <df74b121-c0fd-41e1-b42f-64dd73ace352@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240705073122-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>

Sorry for the late reply!

>> I understand that concern, IIUC it would imply that:
>>
>> a) In case of a hypervisor, we never ran with a Linux guest
>> b) In case of a guest, we never ran under QEMU
> 
> Or maybe VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_FREE_PAGE_HINT is set.

Right, in which case it would be according to the spec.

>> It's certainly possible, although I would assume that most other
>> implementation candidates (e.g., cloud-hypervisor) would have complained by
>> now about Linux issues.
> 
> They either set VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_FREE_PAGE_HINT or followed linux bug to
> work around.

Okay, in the latter case it would be the unofficial way of doing it.

>> What's your experience: if someone would actually implement it according to
>> the spec, would they watch out on the virtio mailing lists for changes (or
>> even be able to vote) and would be able to comment that adjusting the spec
>> to the real first implementation is wrong?
> 
> Unfortunately my experience is that it's not that likely :(

That's what I thought, unfortunately.

> 
> 
> Whatever we do, we need to take existing setups into account.
> 
> How would we do it in the spec without breaking working setups?  I guess
> we could say that both behaviours are legal.  That would still mean we
> need the qemu and linux patches, right?

That makes sense to me. Let me take a look at the patches.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb


      reply	other threads:[~2024-07-10  3:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-05 10:08 Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-05 10:08 ` [PATCH 1/2] virtio_balloon: add work around for out of spec QEMU Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-10  3:11   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-10  3:23   ` Jason Wang
2024-07-10  6:16     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-10  7:37       ` Jason Wang
2024-07-10 11:36         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-05 10:09 ` [PATCH 2/2] virtio: fix vq # when vq skipped Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-10  3:11   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-10  3:25   ` Jason Wang
2024-07-05 10:15 ` [PATCH 0/2] virtio-balloon: make it spec compliant David Hildenbrand
2024-07-05 10:19   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-05 11:00     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-05 11:38       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-10  3:09         ` David Hildenbrand [this message]

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