From: Gabriele Monaco <gmonaco@redhat.com>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/5] timers: Add the available mask in timer migration
Date: Wed, 07 May 2025 15:54:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <dfb2721b2619130a3b3ed45c3e6d18916faf5ccb.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aBtix0VHFCRI_Y-c@localhost.localdomain>
On Wed, 2025-05-07 at 15:40 +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> Le Wed, May 07, 2025 at 02:46:39PM +0200, Gabriele Monaco a écrit :
> >
> > I'm not so sure about this one though.
> > As far as I understand [1], is preventing the user from setting
> > different CPUs while doing isolcpus=nohz, and nohz_full= (which is
> > now
> > equivalent). But I seem to be able to do isolcpus=0-3 and
> > nohz_full=4-7
> > without any problem and I believe I'd hit the issue you're
> > mentioning.
>
> Duh!
>
> > (The same would work if I swap the masks as 0 cannot be nohz_full).
>
> Unfortunately 0 can be nohz_full...
Well, I haven't found what enforces it, but I wasn't able to set 0 as
nohz_full, no matter what I tried on x86 and arm64. Not sure if 0 was
just by chance in this case (I'm guessing it has something to do with
tick_do_timer_cpu, I'm not quite familiar with this code).
I was trying to see if we can make some assumption in the tmigr but
what you propose (enforce fully housekeeping CPUs everywhere) seems
much neater.
>
> >
> > # vng -a isolcpus=0-7 -a nohz_full=8-15 head
> > /sys/devices/system/cpu/{isolated,nohz_full}
> >
> > ==> /sys/devices/system/cpu/isolated <==
> > 0-7
> >
> > ==> /sys/devices/system/cpu/nohz_full <==
> > 8-15
> >
> > (where probably some CPUs are set up to do housekeeping stuff
> > anyway,
> > but if we just look at the masks, we won't notice)
> >
> > Then I assume this should not be allowed either, should it?
> > Or am I missing something here?
>
> Exactly then. housekeeping_setup() already handles cases when
> there is no housekeeping left. I guess that section could be
> made aware of nohz_full + isolcpus not leaving any housekeeping left.
>
> >
> > >
> > > But if nohz_full= is passed on boot and cpusets later create an
> > > isolated
> > > partition which spans the housekeeping set, then the isolated
> > > partition must
> > > be rejected.
> >
> > Mmh, that would make things easier actually.
> > I assume there's no real use case for that kind of hybrid setup
> > with
> > half CPUs nohz_full and half domain isolated..
>
> I guess we can accept nohz_full + isolated partition as long as a
> housekeeping
> CPU remains.
Yeah makes sense, I'll explore that.
Thanks,
Gabriele
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-07 13:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-06 9:15 [PATCH v4 0/5] timers: Exclude isolated cpus from timer migation Gabriele Monaco
2025-05-06 9:15 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] timers: Rename tmigr 'online' bit to 'available' Gabriele Monaco
2025-05-06 9:15 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] timers: Add the available mask in timer migration Gabriele Monaco
2025-05-06 16:07 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-05-07 7:57 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-05-07 12:25 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-05-07 12:46 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-05-07 13:40 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-05-07 13:54 ` Gabriele Monaco [this message]
2025-05-07 14:27 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-05-06 9:15 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] cgroup/cpuset: Rename update_unbound_workqueue_cpumask to update_exclusion_cpumasks Gabriele Monaco
2025-05-06 9:15 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] timers: Add timer_base_remote_is_idle to query from remote cpus Gabriele Monaco
2025-05-06 9:15 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] timers: Exclude isolated cpus from timer migation Gabriele Monaco
2025-05-06 16:00 ` Frederic Weisbecker
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