From: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io>
Cc: Wyes Karny <wkarny@gmail.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Scheduler changes for v6.8
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2024 15:03:18 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <dfde5b4f-0d5e-49b6-a787-0766eff23f91@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtAMacH4hKLyttLuQJjzc=D4m864MFaEEwZLG4K8RKTDYA@mail.gmail.com>
On 15/01/2024 14:26, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 at 13:09, Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io> wrote:
>>
>> On 01/15/24 09:21, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>>
>>>> Or I've done the math wrong :-) But the two don't behave the same for the same
>>>> kernel with and without CPPC.
>>>
>>> They will never behave the same because they can't
>>> - with invariance, the utilization is the utilization at max capacity
>>> so we can easily jump several OPP to go directly to the right one
>>> - without invariance, the utilization is the utilization at current
>>> OPP so we can only jump to a limited number of OPP
>>
>> I am probably missing some subtlty, but the behavior looks more sensible to
>> me when we divide by current capacity instead of max one.
>>
>> It seems what you're saying is that the capacity range for each OPP is 0-1024.
>
> Yes that's the case when you don't have frequency invariance
>
>> And that's when we know that we saturated the current capacity level we decide
>> to move on.
>
> yes
>
>>
>> As I am trying to remove the hardcoded headroom values I am wary of another
>> one. But it seems this is bandaid scenario anyway; so maybe I shouldn't worry
>> too much about it.
I still don't fully understand this fix.
We had:
sugov_update_single_freq()
sugov_update_single_common()
next_f = get_next_freq()
freq = arch_scale_freq_invariant() ?
policy->cpuinfo.max_freq : policy->cur (**) <- (2) !freq_inv
util = map_util_perf(util); <- (1) util *= 1.25
freq = map_util_freq(util, freq, max); <- (3)
}
And now there is:
sugov_update_single_freq()
sugov_update_single_common()
sugov_get_util()
sg_cpu->util = sugov_effective_cpu_perf()
/* Add dvfs headroom to actual utilization */
actual = map_util_perf(actual) <- (1) util *= 1.25
next_f = get_next_freq()
freq = get_capacity_ref_freq()
return policy->cur (*) <- (2) !freq_inv
freq = map_util_freq(util, freq, max) <- (3)
Still not clear to me why we need this extra 'policy->cur *= 1.25' here
(*) and not here (**)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-01-15 14:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-28 12:23 [GIT PULL] Scheduler changes for v6.7 Ingo Molnar
2023-10-30 23:50 ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-01-08 14:07 ` [GIT PULL] Scheduler changes for v6.8 Ingo Molnar
2024-01-09 4:04 ` pr-tracker-bot
2024-01-10 22:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-10 22:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-10 22:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-11 8:11 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-01-11 17:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-11 17:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-11 18:16 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-01-12 14:23 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-01-12 16:58 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-01-12 18:18 ` Qais Yousef
2024-01-12 19:03 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-01-12 20:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-12 20:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-12 21:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-13 1:04 ` Qais Yousef
2024-01-13 1:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-13 1:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-13 10:47 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-01-13 18:33 ` Qais Yousef
2024-01-13 18:37 ` Qais Yousef
2024-01-11 11:09 ` [GIT PULL] scheduler fixes Ingo Molnar
2024-01-11 13:04 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-01-11 20:48 ` [PATCH] Revert "sched/cpufreq: Rework schedutil governor performance estimation" and dependent commit Ingo Molnar
2024-01-11 22:22 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-01-12 18:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2024-01-12 18:26 ` [GIT PULL] Scheduler changes for v6.8 Ingo Molnar
2024-01-14 9:12 ` Wyes Karny
2024-01-14 11:18 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-01-14 12:37 ` Wyes Karny
2024-01-14 13:02 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-01-14 13:05 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-01-14 13:03 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-01-14 15:12 ` Qais Yousef
2024-01-14 15:20 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-01-14 19:58 ` Qais Yousef
2024-01-14 23:37 ` Qais Yousef
2024-01-15 6:25 ` Wyes Karny
2024-01-15 11:59 ` Qais Yousef
2024-01-15 8:21 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-01-15 12:09 ` Qais Yousef
2024-01-15 13:26 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-01-15 14:03 ` Dietmar Eggemann [this message]
2024-01-15 15:26 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-01-15 20:05 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-01-15 8:42 ` David Laight
2024-01-14 18:11 ` Wyes Karny
2024-01-14 18:18 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-01-11 9:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2024-01-11 11:14 ` [tip: sched/urgent] Revert "sched/cpufreq: Rework schedutil governor performance estimation" and dependent commits tip-bot2 for Ingo Molnar
2024-01-11 20:55 ` [tip: sched/urgent] Revert "sched/cpufreq: Rework schedutil governor performance estimation" and dependent commit tip-bot2 for Ingo Molnar
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