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From: Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>
To: "Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>,
	Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-coco@lists.linux.dev, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Jeremy Linton <jeremy.linton@arm.com>,
	Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <lpieralisi@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 3/4] firmware: smccc: arm-cca-guest: Bind the TSM provider to an SMCCC device
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2026 10:03:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e0071e90-c2f5-4d15-b3c6-fe05bf1464e4@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yq5ao6hlzbpa.fsf@kernel.org>

On 08/06/2026 09:19, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:
> Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@kernel.org> writes:
> 
>> On Thu, Jun 04, 2026 at 06:56:28PM +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:
>>> Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@kernel.org> writes:
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> +static const struct smccc_device_info smccc_devices[] __initconst = {
>>>> +       {
>>>> +               .func_id        = ARM_SMCCC_TRNG_VERSION,
>>>> +               .requires_smc   = false,
>>>> +               .min_return     = ARM_SMCCC_TRNG_MIN_VERSION,
>>>> +               .device_name    = "arm-smccc-trng",
>>>> +       },
>>>> +};
>>>> +
>>>> +static bool __init
>>>> +smccc_probe_smccc_device(const struct smccc_device_info *smccc_dev)
>>>> +{
>>>> +       struct arm_smccc_res res;
>>>> +       unsigned long ret;
>>>> +
>>>> +       if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_ARM64))
>>>> +               return false;
>>>> +
>>>> +       if (smccc_conduit == SMCCC_CONDUIT_NONE)
>>>> +               return false;
>>>> +
>>>> +       if (smccc_dev->requires_smc && smccc_conduit != SMCCC_CONDUIT_SMC)
>>>> +               return false;
>>>> +
>>>> +       arm_smccc_1_1_invoke(smccc_dev->func_id, &res);
>>>> +       ret = res.a0;
>>>> +
>>>> +       if ((s32)ret < 0)
>>>> +               return false;
>>>> +
>>>> +       return ret >= smccc_dev->min_return;
>>>> +}
>>>> +
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am not sure we want the check to be as simple as ret < 0. Some
>>> function IDs may return input errors based on the supplied arguments
>>> (for example, RMI_ERROR_INPUT). In those cases, we would likely want
>>> this to be handled via a callback.
>>>
>>
>> As I mentioned in response to Suzuki, we can defer that to probe of
>> that device. If *_VERSION, succeeds SMCCC core can add that device and
>> leave the rest to the core keeping the core and bus layer simple IMO.
>>
>>> We also want to use conditional compilation for some function IDs.
>>> Given the callback approach and the #ifdefs, I wonder whether what we
>>> currently have is actually simpler and more flexible.”
>>>
>>
>> I was trying to avoid conditional compilation altogether and hence the
>> reason for keeping it as simple as possible. Also IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_ARM64)
>> in above snippet must come as some condition to this generic probe.
>>
>> Adding any more logic or callback defeats the bus idea here if we need
>> to rely/depend on multiple conditional compilation or callbacks IMO.
>>
>> Let's find see if it can work with what we are adding now and may add in
>> near future and then decide.
>>
> 
> If we move all the conditional checks to the driver probe path, then I
> think this can work. Something like the below:
> 
> struct smccc_device_info {
> 	u32 func_id;
> 	bool requires_smc;
> 	const char *device_name;
> };
> 
> static const struct smccc_device_info smccc_devices[] __initconst = {
> 	{
> 		.func_id        = ARM_SMCCC_TRNG_VERSION,
> 		.requires_smc   = false,
> 		.device_name    = "arm-smccc-trng",
> 	},
> 
> 	{
> 		.func_id        = RSI_ABI_VERSION,

Don't we need parameters passed to this (Requested Interface version for 
e.g.) ? See more below.


> 		.requires_smc   = true,
> 		.device_name    = RSI_DEV_NAME,
> 	},
> };
> 
> static bool __init smccc_probe_smccc_device(const struct smccc_device_info *smccc_dev)
> {
> 	unsigned long ret;
> 	struct arm_smccc_res res;
> 
> 	if (smccc_conduit == SMCCC_CONDUIT_NONE)
> 		return false;
> 
> 	if (smccc_dev->requires_smc && smccc_conduit != SMCCC_CONDUIT_SMC)
> 		return false;
> 
> 	arm_smccc_1_1_invoke(smccc_dev->func_id, &res);
> 	ret = res.a0;
> 
> 	if ((s32)ret == SMCCC_RET_NOT_SUPPORTED)

Is this a reliable check for all possible SMCCC services ? i.e., Are we 
expected to get RET_NOT_SUPPORTED for any service for which the backend
is not available ?

Also, as pointed out RSI_ABI_VERSION may return other errors based on 
the input (requested version, e.g., RSI_ERROR_INPUT) and we may still go
ahead and register the device ?

> 		return false;
> 
> 	return true;
> }
> 
> static int __init smccc_devices_init(void)
> {
> 	struct arm_smccc_device *sdev;
> 	const struct smccc_device_info *smccc_dev;
> 
> 	for (int i = 0; i < ARRAY_SIZE(smccc_devices); i++) {
> 		smccc_dev = &smccc_devices[i];
> 
> 		if (!smccc_probe_smccc_device(smccc_dev))
> 			continue;
> 
>                 sdev = arm_smccc_device_register(smccc_dev->device_name);
>                 if (IS_ERR(sdev))
>                         pr_err("%s: could not register device: %ld\n",
>                                smccc_dev->device_name, PTR_ERR(sdev));
> 
> 	}
> 
> 	return 0;
> }
> device_initcall(smccc_devices_init);
> 
> with the diff to hw_random/smccc_trng
> 
> modified   arch/arm64/include/asm/archrandom.h
> @@ -12,7 +12,7 @@
>   
>   extern bool smccc_trng_available;
>   
> -static inline bool __init smccc_probe_trng(void)
> +static inline bool smccc_probe_trng(void)
>   {
>   	struct arm_smccc_res res;
>   
> modified   drivers/char/hw_random/arm_smccc_trng.c
> @@ -19,6 +19,8 @@
>   #include <linux/arm-smccc.h>
>   #include <linux/arm-smccc-bus.h>
>   
> +#include <asm/archrandom.h>
> +
>   #ifdef CONFIG_ARM64
>   #define ARM_SMCCC_TRNG_RND	ARM_SMCCC_TRNG_RND64
>   #define MAX_BITS_PER_CALL	(3 * 64UL)
> @@ -98,6 +100,10 @@ static int smccc_trng_probe(struct arm_smccc_device *sdev)
>   {
>   	struct hwrng *trng;
>   
> +	/* validate the minimum version requirement */
> +	if (!smccc_probe_trng())
> +		return -ENODEV;
> +
>   	trng = devm_kzalloc(&sdev->dev, sizeof(*trng), GFP_KERNEL);
>   	if (!trng)
>   		return -ENOMEM;
> 
> We can also move arch/arm64/include/asm/rsi_smc.h to
> include/linux/arm-rsi-smccc.h. There was a suggestion to move these

super minor nit: arm-smccc-rsi.h ?

Cheers
Suzuki


> firmware interfaces out of architecture-specific code:
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/agsNO9cc7H-b0H8L@willie-the-truck
> 
> This will also avoid the #ifdef CONFIG_ARM64
> 
> -aneesh


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-06-08  9:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-27 10:02 [PATCH v6 0/4] Switch Arm SMCCC firmware services to an SMCCC bus Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-05-27 10:02 ` [PATCH v6 1/4] firmware: smccc: Add an Arm " Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-06-03 18:52   ` Sudeep Holla
2026-05-27 10:02 ` [PATCH v6 2/4] firmware: hwrng: arm_smccc_trng: Register as an SMCCC device Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-05-27 10:02 ` [PATCH v6 3/4] firmware: smccc: arm-cca-guest: Bind the TSM provider to " Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-06-04  9:18   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-06-04  9:21   ` Sudeep Holla
2026-06-04 10:24     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-06-04 10:55       ` Sudeep Holla
2026-06-04 13:26     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-06-04 13:45       ` Sudeep Holla
2026-06-08  8:19         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-06-08  8:39           ` Sudeep Holla
2026-06-08  9:03           ` Suzuki K Poulose [this message]
2026-06-08 11:26             ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-06-08 12:32               ` Sudeep Holla
2026-06-08 16:27                 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-05-27 10:02 ` [PATCH v6 4/4] coco: guest: arm64: Replace dummy CCA device with sysfs ABI Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-06-04 12:58 ` [PATCH v6 0/4] Switch Arm SMCCC firmware services to an SMCCC bus Aneesh Kumar K.V

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