From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
Cc: Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, Qi Zheng <qi.zheng@linux.dev>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>, Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
Yuanchu Xie <yuanchu@google.com>, Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
kernel-team@meta.com, stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/vmscan: report RCU-tasks quiescent states in shrink_lruvec()
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2026 10:38:40 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e019296d-43f5-47bd-ab49-6dfd1d8da0cb@paulmck-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <anqnkZceNHyvbR5S@linux.dev>
On Mon, Aug 10, 2026 at 09:43:03PM -0700, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2026 at 02:57:36AM -0700, Breno Leitao wrote:
> > I am seeing some rcu_tasks stalls in the Meta fleet during reclaim.
> >
> > INFO: rcu_tasks detected stalls on tasks:
> > 0000000088620d09: .. nvcsw: 6735/6735 holdout: 1 idle_cpu: -1/8
> > task:GlobalCPUThread state:R running task pid:2552016 tgid:2524552
> > Call Trace:
> > shrink_lruvec
> > mem_cgroup_iter
> > shrink_node
> > do_try_to_free_pages
> > try_to_free_pages
> > __alloc_frozen_pages_noprof
> > alloc_pages_noprof
> > pte_alloc_one
> > __pte_alloc
> > handle_mm_fault
> >
> > Nothing promises direct reclaim returns in bounded time, and the scan
> > loop in shrink_lruvec() only calls cond_resched(), which is a no-op on
> > PREEMPTION kernels. Involuntary preemption is not a Tasks-RCU
> > quiescent state, so the reclaiming task never reports one and becomes a
> > holdout.
>
> I still don't understand why cond_resched() is being treated as involuntary
> preemption but that is orthogonal to this patch.
The history is that cond_resched() was originally intended to be a
preemption point in any otherwise non-preemptible kernel. Therefore,
because it is a preemption point, it counts as an involuntary context
switch.
Thanx, Paul
> > Upgrade it to cond_resched_tasks_rcu_qs(), which reports a quiescent
> > state even when cond_resched() does nothing.
> >
> > PS: This has been discussed in [1]
> >
> > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/amdWVTs0WKOxguxP@gmail.com/ [1]
> > Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
> > Signed-off-by: Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>
>
> Acked-by: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-11 17:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-10 9:57 Breno Leitao
2026-08-10 15:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-08-10 20:02 ` Johannes Weiner
2026-08-11 4:43 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-08-11 17:38 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2026-08-11 17:54 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-08-11 18:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
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