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From: "Mika Penttilä" <mika.penttila@nextfour.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Cc: Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux ACPI <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PM / suspend: Count suspend-to-idle loop as sleep time
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 12:53:13 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e028742e-cd42-24a7-0da1-4fa12d8c9d7c@nextfour.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1831106.CYv9dyYV15@aspire.rjw.lan>

On 09/14/2018 11:46 AM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Friday, September 14, 2018 10:28:44 AM CEST Mika Penttilä wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>>
>> On 09/14/2018 09:59 AM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>> From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
>>>
>>> There is a difference in behavior between suspend-to-idle and
>>> suspend-to-RAM in the timekeeping handling that leads to functional
>>> issues.  Namely, every iteration of the loop in s2idle_loop()
>>> increases the monotinic clock somewhat, even if timekeeping_suspend()
>>> and timekeeping_resume() are invoked from s2idle_enter(), and if
>>> many of them are carried out in a row, the monotonic clock can grow
>>> significantly while the system is regarded as suspended, which
>>> doesn't happen during suspend-to-RAM and so it is unexpected and
>>> leads to confusion and misbehavior in user space (similar to what
>>> ensued when we tried to combine the boottime and monotonic clocks).
>>>
>>> To avoid that, count all iterations of the loop in s2idle_loop()
>>> as "sleep time" and adjust the clock for that on exit from
>>> suspend-to-idle.
>>>
>>> [That also covers systems on which timekeeping is not suspended
>>>  by by s2idle_enter().]
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> This is a replacement for https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/10599209/
>>>
>>> I decided to count the entire loop in s2idle_loop() as "sleep time" as the
>>> patch is then simpler and it also covers systems where timekeeping is not
>>> suspended in the final step of suspend-to-idle.
>>>
>>> I dropped the "Fixes:" tag, because the monotonic clock delta problem
>>> has been present on the latter since the very introduction of "freeze"
>>> (as suspend-to-idle was referred to previously) and so this doesn't fix
>>> any particular later commits.
>>>
>>> ---
>>>  kernel/power/suspend.c |   18 ++++++++++++++++++
>>>  1 file changed, 18 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> Index: linux-pm/kernel/power/suspend.c
>>> ===================================================================
>>> --- linux-pm.orig/kernel/power/suspend.c
>>> +++ linux-pm/kernel/power/suspend.c
>>> @@ -109,8 +109,12 @@ static void s2idle_enter(void)
>>>  
>>>  static void s2idle_loop(void)
>>>  {
>>> +	ktime_t start, delta;
>>> +
>>>  	pm_pr_dbg("suspend-to-idle\n");
>>>  
>>> +	start = ktime_get();
>>> +
>>>  	for (;;) {
>>>  		int error;
>>>  
>>> @@ -150,6 +154,20 @@ static void s2idle_loop(void)
>>>  		pm_wakeup_clear(false);
>>>  	}
>>>  
>>> +	/*
>>> +	 * If the monotonic clock difference between the start of the loop and
>>> +	 * this point is too large, user space may get confused about whether or
>>> +	 * not the system has been suspended and tasks may get killed by
>>> +	 * watchdogs etc., so count the loop as "sleep time" to compensate for
>>> +	 * that.
>>> +	 */
>>> +	delta = ktime_sub(ktime_get(), start);
>>> +	if (ktime_to_ns(delta) > 0) {
>>> +		struct timespec64 timespec64_delta = ktime_to_timespec64(delta);
>>> +
>>> +		timekeeping_inject_sleeptime64(&timespec64_delta);
>>> +	}
>>
>> But doesn't injecting sleep time here make monotonic clock too large by the amount of sleeptime? 
>> tick_freeze() / tick_unfreeze() already injects the sleeptime (otherwise delta would be 0).
> 
> No, it doesn't.
> 
> The delta here is the extra time taken by the loop which hasn't been counted
> as sleep time yet.

I said incorrectly monotonic clock, but timekeeping_inject_sleeptime64() forwards the wall time, by the amount of delta.
Why wouldn't some other cpu update xtime when one cpu is in the loop? And if all cpus enter s2idle, tick_unfreeze()
injects sleeptime. My point is that this extra injection makes wall time wrong, no?

> 
> Thanks,
> Rafael
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-14  9:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-14  6:59 Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-09-14  7:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-14  7:47   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-09-14  8:04     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-14  8:13 ` [PATCH v2] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-09-14  8:28 ` [PATCH] " Mika Penttilä
2018-09-14  8:46   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-09-14  9:53     ` Mika Penttilä [this message]
2018-09-14 10:06       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-09-14 12:41         ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-17  8:08           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-09-22 15:50 ` kbuild test robot

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