From: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 14/26] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to display number of free counters
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2024 11:00:39 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e065b193-dbcc-451b-98db-68a5a69e6ae0@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ef92f1fb-086c-4ee1-b8ec-e08ed68f963a@amd.com>
Hi Babu,
On 11/22/24 3:36 PM, Moger, Babu wrote:
> Hi Reinette,
>
> On 11/21/2024 3:12 PM, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>> Hi Babu,
>>
>> On 11/19/24 11:20 AM, Moger, Babu wrote:
>>> Hi Reinette,
>>>
>>> On 11/15/24 18:31, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>>>> Hi Babu,
>>>>
>>>> On 10/29/24 4:21 PM, Babu Moger wrote:
>>>>> Provide the interface to display the number of free monitoring counters
>>>>> available for assignment in each doamin when mbm_cntr_assign is supported.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> v9: New patch.
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Documentation/arch/x86/resctrl.rst | 4 ++++
>>>>> arch/x86/kernel/cpu/resctrl/monitor.c | 1 +
>>>>> arch/x86/kernel/cpu/resctrl/rdtgroup.c | 33 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>> 3 files changed, 38 insertions(+)
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/arch/x86/resctrl.rst b/Documentation/arch/x86/resctrl.rst
>>>>> index 2f3a86278e84..2bc58d974934 100644
>>>>> --- a/Documentation/arch/x86/resctrl.rst
>>>>> +++ b/Documentation/arch/x86/resctrl.rst
>>>>> @@ -302,6 +302,10 @@ with the following files:
>>>>> memory bandwidth tracking to a single memory bandwidth event per
>>>>> monitoring group.
>>>>> +"available_mbm_cntrs":
>>>>> + The number of free monitoring counters available assignment in each domain
>>>>
>>>> "The number of free monitoring counters available assignment" -> "The number of monitoring
>>>> counters available for assignment"?
>>>>
>>>> (not taking into account how text may change after addressing Peter's feedback)
>>>
>>> How about this?
>>>
>>> "The number of monitoring counters available for assignment in each domain
>>> when the architecture supports mbm_cntr_assign mode. There are a total of
>>> "num_mbm_cntrs" counters are available for assignment. Counters can be
>>> assigned or unassigned individually in each domain. A counter is available
>>> for new assignment if it is unassigned in all domains."
>>
>> Please consider the context of this paragraph. It follows right after the description
>> of "num_mbm_cntrs" that states "Up to two counters can be assigned per monitoring group".
>> I think it is confusing to follow that with a paragraph that states "Counters can be
>> assigned or unassigned individually in each domain." I wonder if it may be helpful to
>> use a different term ... for example a counter is *assigned* to an event of a monitoring
>> group but this assignment may be to specified (not yet supported) or all (this work) domains while
>> it is only *programmed*/*activated* to specified domains. Of course, all of this documentation
>> needs to remain coherent if future work decides to indeed support per-domain assignment.
>>
>
> Little bit lost here. Please help me.
I think this highlights the uncertainty this interface brings. How do you expect users
to use this interface? At this time I think this interface can create a lot of confusion.
For example, consider a hypothetical system with three domains and four counters that
has the following state per mbm_assign_control:
//0=tl;1=_;2=l #default group uses counters 0 and 1 to monitor total and local MBM
/m1/0=_;1=t;2=t #monitor group m1 uses counter 2, just for total MBM
/m2/0=l;1=_;2=l #monitor group m2 uses counter 3, just for local MBM
/m3/0=_;1=_;2=_
Since, in this system there are only four counters available, and
they have all been assigned, then there are no new counters available for
assignment.
If I understand correctly, available_mbm_cntrs will read:
0=1;1=3;2=1
How is a user to interpret the above numbers? It does not reflect
that no counter can be assigned to m3, instead it reflects which of the
already assigned counters still need to be activated on domains.
If, for example, a user is expected to use this file to know how
many counters can still be assigned, should it not reflect the actual
available counters. In the above scenario it will then be:
0=0;1=0;2=0
Of course, when doing the above the user may get impression that a counter
that has already been assigned, just not activated, is no longer available
for use.
> "available_mbm_cntrs":
> "The number of monitoring counters available for assignment in each domain when the architecture supports "mbm_cntr_assign" mode. There are a total of "num_mbm_cntrs" counters are available for assignment.
> A counter is assigned to an event within a monitoring group and is available for activation across all domains. Users have the flexibility to activate it selectively within specific domains."
>
Once we understand how users are to use this file the documentation should be easier
to create.
Reinette
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-25 19:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-29 23:21 [PATCH v9 00/26] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Babu Moger
2024-10-29 23:21 ` [PATCH v9 01/26] x86/resctrl: Add __init attribute for the functions called in resctrl_late_init Babu Moger
2024-11-15 23:21 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-11-18 17:44 ` Moger, Babu
2024-11-18 22:07 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-11-20 20:02 ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-29 23:21 ` [PATCH v9 02/26] x86/cpufeatures: Add support for Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Babu Moger
2024-10-29 23:21 ` [PATCH v9 03/26] x86/resctrl: Add ABMC feature in the command line options Babu Moger
2024-10-29 23:21 ` [PATCH v9 04/26] x86/resctrl: Consolidate monitoring related data from rdt_resource Babu Moger
2024-10-29 23:21 ` [PATCH v9 05/26] x86/resctrl: Detect Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring feature details Babu Moger
2024-10-29 23:21 ` [PATCH v9 06/26] x86/resctrl: Introduce resctrl_file_fflags_init() to initialize fflags Babu Moger
2024-10-29 23:21 ` [PATCH v9 07/26] x86/resctrl: Add support to enable/disable AMD ABMC feature Babu Moger
2024-10-29 23:21 ` [PATCH v9 08/26] x86/resctrl: Introduce the interface to display monitor mode Babu Moger
2024-11-16 0:00 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-11-18 19:04 ` Moger, Babu
2024-11-18 22:07 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-11-22 18:25 ` Moger, Babu
2024-11-22 21:37 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-11-23 0:02 ` Moger, Babu
2024-11-25 18:17 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-11-26 17:09 ` Moger, Babu
2024-11-26 19:01 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-11-26 21:57 ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-29 23:21 ` [PATCH v9 09/26] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to display number of monitoring counters Babu Moger
2024-11-16 0:06 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-11-18 21:31 ` Moger, Babu
2025-02-03 13:26 ` Peter Newman
2024-10-29 23:21 ` [PATCH v9 10/26] x86/resctrl: Introduce bitmap mbm_cntr_free_map to track assignable counters Babu Moger
2024-11-16 0:11 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-29 23:21 ` [PATCH v9 11/26] x86/resctrl: Introduce mbm_total_cfg and mbm_local_cfg in struct rdt_hw_mon_domain Babu Moger
2024-10-29 23:21 ` [PATCH v9 12/26] x86/resctrl: Remove MSR reading of event configuration value Babu Moger
2024-11-16 0:24 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-11-19 16:50 ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-29 23:21 ` [PATCH v9 13/26] x86/resctrl: Introduce mbm_cntr_map to track assignable counters at domain Babu Moger
2024-10-29 23:21 ` [PATCH v9 14/26] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to display number of free counters Babu Moger
2024-10-29 23:57 ` Luck, Tony
2024-10-30 14:15 ` Moger, Babu
2024-11-04 14:14 ` Peter Newman
2024-11-04 17:31 ` Moger, Babu
2024-11-16 0:31 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-11-19 19:20 ` Moger, Babu
2024-11-21 21:12 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-11-22 23:36 ` Moger, Babu
2024-11-25 19:00 ` Reinette Chatre [this message]
2024-11-26 23:31 ` Moger, Babu
2024-11-26 23:56 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-11-27 14:57 ` Moger, Babu
2024-11-27 19:05 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-11-28 11:10 ` Peter Newman
2024-11-28 19:35 ` Moger, Babu
2024-11-29 9:59 ` Peter Newman
2024-11-29 17:06 ` Moger, Babu
2024-12-02 10:43 ` Peter Newman
2024-12-02 15:02 ` Moger, Babu
2024-12-02 18:33 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-12-02 19:48 ` Moger, Babu
2024-12-02 20:15 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-12-02 20:42 ` Moger, Babu
2024-12-02 21:09 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-12-02 21:28 ` Moger, Babu
2024-12-02 21:47 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-12-02 22:06 ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-29 23:21 ` [PATCH v9 15/26] x86/resctrl: Add data structures and definitions for ABMC assignment Babu Moger
2024-11-16 0:35 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-10-29 23:21 ` [PATCH v9 16/26] x86/resctrl: Introduce cntr_id in mongroup for assignments Babu Moger
2024-11-16 0:38 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-11-19 20:02 ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-29 23:21 ` [PATCH v9 17/26] x86/resctrl: Implement resctrl_arch_config_cntr() to assign a counter with ABMC Babu Moger
2024-10-29 23:54 ` Luck, Tony
2024-10-30 14:14 ` Moger, Babu
2024-11-16 0:44 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-11-19 20:12 ` Moger, Babu
2024-11-21 20:18 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-11-22 18:54 ` Moger, Babu
2024-11-22 21:52 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-11-23 0:15 ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-29 23:21 ` [PATCH v9 18/26] x86/resctrl: Add the interface to assign/update counter assignment Babu Moger
2024-11-16 0:57 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-11-20 18:05 ` Moger, Babu
2024-11-21 20:50 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-11-22 21:04 ` Moger, Babu
2024-11-22 22:07 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-11-23 0:09 ` Moger, Babu
2024-12-04 4:16 ` Fenghua Yu
2024-10-29 23:21 ` [PATCH v9 19/26] x86/resctrl: Add the interface to unassign a MBM counter Babu Moger
2024-11-04 14:16 ` Peter Newman
2024-11-04 18:21 ` Moger, Babu
2024-11-05 10:35 ` Peter Newman
2024-11-05 19:58 ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-29 23:21 ` [PATCH v9 20/26] x86/resctrl: Auto assign/unassign counters when mbm_cntr_assign is enabled Babu Moger
2024-11-18 17:18 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-11-22 0:22 ` Moger, Babu
2024-11-22 0:26 ` Moger, Babu
2024-11-22 18:12 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-11-22 21:34 ` Moger, Babu
2024-12-04 4:16 ` Fenghua Yu
2024-12-04 17:03 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-12-04 17:14 ` Moger, Babu
2024-12-04 17:19 ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-29 23:21 ` [PATCH v9 21/26] x86/resctrl: Report "Unassigned" for MBM events in mbm_cntr_assign mode Babu Moger
2024-11-18 17:39 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-11-20 19:14 ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-29 23:21 ` [PATCH v9 22/26] x86/resctrl: Introduce the interface to switch between monitor modes Babu Moger
2024-10-29 23:21 ` [PATCH v9 23/26] x86/resctrl: Configure mbm_cntr_assign mode if supported Babu Moger
2024-11-18 19:23 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-11-20 18:59 ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-29 23:21 ` [PATCH v9 24/26] x86/resctrl: Update assignments on event configuration changes Babu Moger
2024-11-18 19:43 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-11-21 2:14 ` Moger, Babu
2024-11-21 20:58 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-11-22 20:12 ` Moger, Babu
2024-10-29 23:21 ` [PATCH v9 25/26] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to list assignment states of all the groups Babu Moger
2024-10-29 23:21 ` [PATCH v9 26/26] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to modify assignment states of " Babu Moger
2024-11-18 21:51 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-11-21 20:29 ` Moger, Babu
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