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From: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, hughd@google.com,
	wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com, ying.huang@intel.com,
	21cnbao@gmail.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com, shy828301@gmail.com,
	ziy@nvidia.com, ioworker0@gmail.com, da.gomez@samsung.com,
	p.raghav@samsung.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/6] add mTHP support for anonymous shmem
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2024 13:47:37 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e08b8245-bc8c-4a18-a1e0-53a139258826@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zob8xI-LWe9H_iJs@casper.infradead.org>



On 2024/7/5 03:49, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 04, 2024 at 09:19:10PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 04.07.24 21:03, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>> shmem has two uses:
>>>>
>>>>     - MAP_ANONYMOUS | MAP_SHARED (this patch set)
>>>>     - tmpfs
>>>>
>>>> For the second use case we don't want controls *at all*, we want the
>>>> same heiristics used for all other filesystems to apply to tmpfs.
>>>
>>> As discussed in the MM meeting, Hugh had a different opinion on that.
>>
>> FWIW, I just recalled that I wrote a quick summary:
>>
>> https://lkml.kernel.org/r/f1783ff0-65bd-4b2b-8952-52b6822a0835@redhat.com
>>
>> I believe the meetings are recorded as well, but never looked at recordings.
> 
> That's not what I understood Hugh to mean.  To me, it seemed that Hugh
> was expressing an opinion on using shmem as shmem, not as using it as
> tmpfs.
> 
> If I misunderstood Hugh, well, I still disagree.  We should not have
> separate controls for this.  tmpfs is just not that special.

But now we already have a PMD-mapped THP control for tmpfs, and mTHP 
simply extends this control to per-size.

IIUC, as David mentioned before, for tmpfs, mTHP should act like a huge 
order filter which should be respected by the expected huge orders in 
the write() and fallocate() paths. This would also solve the issue of 
allocating huge orders in writable mmap() path for tmpfs, as well as 
unifying the interface.

Anyway, I will try to provide an RFC to discuss the mTHP for tmpfs approach.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-05  5:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-11 10:11 Baolin Wang
2024-06-11 10:11 ` [PATCH v5 1/6] mm: memory: extend finish_fault() to support large folio Baolin Wang
2024-06-11 14:38   ` Zi Yan
2024-06-12  9:28     ` Baolin Wang
2024-06-12 13:40   ` Kefeng Wang
2024-06-13  0:51     ` Baolin Wang
2024-06-11 10:11 ` [PATCH v5 2/6] mm: shmem: add THP validation for PMD-mapped THP related statistics Baolin Wang
2024-06-11 10:11 ` [PATCH v5 3/6] mm: shmem: add multi-size THP sysfs interface for anonymous shmem Baolin Wang
2024-06-11 10:11 ` [PATCH v5 4/6] mm: shmem: add mTHP support " Baolin Wang
2024-07-03 17:25   ` Ryan Roberts
2024-07-04 11:15     ` Baolin Wang
2024-07-04 13:58       ` Ryan Roberts
2024-07-04 14:01         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-04 15:05         ` Bang Li
2024-07-04 15:54           ` Ryan Roberts
2024-07-05  2:56         ` Baolin Wang
2024-07-05  8:55           ` Ryan Roberts
2024-07-04 14:46       ` Bang Li
2024-07-05  3:01         ` Baolin Wang
2024-07-05  8:42           ` Ryan Roberts
2024-07-05  8:57             ` Baolin Wang
2024-07-05  9:05               ` Ryan Roberts
2024-06-11 10:11 ` [PATCH v5 5/6] mm: shmem: add mTHP size alignment in shmem_get_unmapped_area Baolin Wang
2024-06-11 10:11 ` [PATCH v5 6/6] mm: shmem: add mTHP counters for anonymous shmem Baolin Wang
2024-06-12  8:04   ` Lance Yang
2024-06-12  9:28     ` Baolin Wang
2024-06-12 14:16       ` Lance Yang
2024-06-12 13:46   ` Kefeng Wang
2024-06-13  1:00     ` Baolin Wang
2024-06-12 14:18   ` Lance Yang
2024-06-13  1:08     ` Baolin Wang
2024-07-04 18:43 ` [PATCH v5 0/6] add mTHP support " Matthew Wilcox
2024-07-04 19:03   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-04 19:19     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-04 19:49       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-07-05  5:47         ` Baolin Wang [this message]
2024-07-05  8:45           ` Ryan Roberts
2024-07-05  8:59             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-05  9:13               ` Ryan Roberts
2024-07-05  9:16                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-05  9:23                   ` Ryan Roberts
2024-07-07 16:39               ` Daniel Gomez
2024-07-09  8:28                 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-07-16 13:11                   ` Daniel Gomez
2024-07-16 13:22                     ` David Hildenbrand

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