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From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
To: "Ryan Roberts" <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	"Mikołaj Lenczewski" <miko.lenczewski@arm.com>,
	yang@os.amperecomputing.com, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
	will@kernel.org, joey.gouly@arm.com, broonie@kernel.org,
	mark.rutland@arm.com, james.morse@arm.com,
	yangyicong@hisilicon.com, anshuman.khandual@arm.com,
	maz@kernel.org, liaochang1@huawei.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	david@redhat.com, baohua@kernel.org, ioworker0@gmail.com,
	oliver.upton@linux.dev, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/3] arm64: Add BBM Level 2 cpu feature
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 16:25:56 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e0a6308f-5628-4698-95a7-ec1b918358b0@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cbc3f62b-8890-42ca-81ff-66f1e4ea1cf3@arm.com>

On 2025-02-19 3:43 pm, Ryan Roberts wrote:
> On 19/02/2025 15:39, Robin Murphy wrote:
>> Hi Miko,
>>
>> On 2025-02-19 2:38 pm, Mikołaj Lenczewski wrote:
>>> The Break-Before-Make cpu feature supports multiple levels (levels 0-2),
>>> and this commit adds a dedicated BBML2 cpufeature to test against
>>> support for.
>>>
>>> This is a system feature as we might have a big.LITTLE architecture
>>> where some cores support BBML2 and some don't, but we want all cores to
>>> be available and BBM to default to level 0 (as opposed to having cores
>>> without BBML2 not coming online).
>>>
>>> To support BBML2 in as wide a range of contexts as we can, we want not
>>> only the architectural guarantees that BBML2 makes, but additionally
>>> want BBML2 to not create TLB conflict aborts. Not causing aborts avoids
>>> us having to prove that no recursive faults can be induced in any path
>>> that uses BBML2, allowing its use for arbitrary kernel mappings.
>>> Support detection of such CPUs.
>>
>> If this may be used for splitting/compacting userspace mappings, then similarly
>> to 6e192214c6c8 ("iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Document SVA interaction with new pagetable
>> features"), strictly we'll also want a check in arm_smmu_sva_supported() to make
>> sure that the SMMU is OK with BBML2 behaviour too, and disallow SVA if not. Note
>> that the corresponding SMMUv3.2-BBML2 feature is already strict about TLB
>> conflict aborts, so is comparatively nice and straightforward.
> 
> Thanks for catching this, Robin, as I completely forgot to pass this onto Miko
> yesterday after our conversation. I suggest we tack a commit on to the end of
> this series to cover that?
> 
> I think that strictly this is not needed for Yang's series since that only uses
> BBML2 for kernel mappings, and those pgtables would never be directly shared
> with the SMMU.

Yup, it's really more just a theoretical correctness concern - certainly 
Arm's implementations from MMU-700 onwards do support BBML2, while 
MMU-600 is now sufficiently old that nobody is likely to pair it with 
new BBML-capable CPUs anyway - so it's just to cover the gap that in 
principle there may be 3rd-party implementations which might get confused.

Cheers,
Robin.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-19 16:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-19 14:38 [PATCH v1 0/3] Initial BBML2 support for contpte_convert() Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-02-19 14:38 ` [PATCH v1 1/3] arm64: Add BBM Level 2 cpu feature Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-02-19 15:39   ` Robin Murphy
2025-02-19 15:43     ` Ryan Roberts
2025-02-19 16:25       ` Robin Murphy [this message]
2025-02-20  9:33         ` Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-02-19 23:34   ` Oliver Upton
2025-02-19 23:57     ` Oliver Upton
2025-02-20  9:37       ` Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-02-20  1:25   ` Yang Shi
2025-02-20 10:34     ` Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-02-20 20:01       ` Yang Shi
2025-02-19 14:38 ` [PATCH v1 2/3] arm64/mm: Delay tlbi in contpte_convert() under BBML2 Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-02-19 14:38 ` [PATCH v1 3/3] arm64/mm: Elide " Mikołaj Lenczewski

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