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From: Peter Jung <ptr1337@cachyos.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, mingo@redhat.com,
	peterz@infradead.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
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Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET v6] sched: Implement BPF extensible scheduler class
Date: Fri, 10 May 2024 20:24:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e14eb023-e309-4647-9c6b-d6a81cb20ade@cachyos.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240501151312.635565-1-tj@kernel.org>


Hi everyone,

We (CachyOS [0]) want to support to proposal of sched_ext.
CachyOS is an archlinux based distribution, which improves the performance,
throughput and interactivity for the desktop but also on servers. We 
have a big
community, which likes testing new features on the kernel, GPU drivers,
frequency drivers, new locking technologies and schedulers.

[0]: https://cachyos.org/

For CachyOS, schedulers have always been a key matter. We have numerous
variants of kernels with different schedulers so that everyone can be
satisfied. So far, schedulers in the kernel have faced one problem, 
namely: 1
kernel = 1 scheduler. It was impossible to change the CPU scheduler without
restarting the computer and booting another kernel. scx-scheduler simply and
extremely successfully changes this approach and allows you to change
schedulers at runtime. The approach with a single default scheduler in the
kernel also leads to a problematic situation, because in our opinion it is
impossible to develop a single scheduler that is the optimal solution 
for all
possible tasks. Again, and in this case, scx-scheds makes this problem
obsolete.

The EEVDF Scheduler gives a good overall experience, but it currently lacks
good interactivity under load, specific scenarios like gaming and also the
latency. Rusty gives CachyOS currently a very good replacement for desktop
usage. We are planning to provide the Rusty Scheduler in the future as 
default.
The interactivity of Rusty is dramatically better than EEVDF, especially 
when a
heavy workload is running in the background, e.g. during compilation. 
Using the
desktop under such a workload can be very challenging for the default 
scheduler
and at rusty it is not even noticeable that during compilation is 
running. Also
in gaming scenarios rusty seems to provide excellent performance.

The LAVD Scheduler is integrated as default in our handheld variant and 
shows
very good impressive results in frame times as well as 1% lows. This 
gives our
user on the Handheld Edition a better experience.

It is also worth mentioning that our community takes an active part in
sched-ext testing and regularly reports bugs and suggestions for changes.
Cooperation with developers is also perfect - they immediately make 
corrections
if there are any regressions.

Regards,

Peter Jung
CachyOS

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-05-10 18:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 142+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-01 15:09 Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 01/39] cgroup: Implement cgroup_show_cftypes() Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 02/39] sched: Restructure sched_class order sanity checks in sched_init() Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 03/39] sched: Allow sched_cgroup_fork() to fail and introduce sched_cancel_fork() Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 04/39] sched: Add sched_class->reweight_task() Tejun Heo
2024-06-24 10:23   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-24 10:31     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-24 23:59     ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-25  7:29       ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-25 23:57         ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-26  1:29           ` [PATCH sched/urgent] sched/fair: set_load_weight() must also call reweight_task() for SCHED_IDLE tasks Tejun Heo
2024-06-26  2:19           ` [PATCH sched_ext/for-6.11] sched_ext: Account for idle policy when setting p->scx.weight in scx_ops_enable_task() Tejun Heo
2024-07-08 19:29             ` [PATCH v2 " Tejun Heo
2024-07-08 15:07     ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: set_load_weight() must also call reweight_task() for SCHED_IDLE tasks tip-bot2 for Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 05/39] sched: Add sched_class->switching_to() and expose check_class_changing/changed() Tejun Heo
2024-06-24 11:06   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-24 22:18     ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-25  8:16       ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 06/39] sched: Factor out cgroup weight conversion functions Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 07/39] sched: Expose css_tg() and __setscheduler_prio() Tejun Heo
2024-06-24 11:19   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-24 18:56     ` Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 08/39] sched: Enumerate CPU cgroup file types Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 09/39] sched: Add @reason to sched_class->rq_{on|off}line() Tejun Heo
2024-06-24 11:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-24 21:18     ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-25  8:29       ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-25 23:41         ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-26  8:23           ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-26 18:01             ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-27  1:27               ` [PATCH sched_ext/for-6.11] sched_ext: Disallow loading BPF scheduler if isolcpus= domain isolation is in effect Tejun Heo
2024-07-08 19:30                 ` Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 10/39] sched: Factor out update_other_load_avgs() from __update_blocked_others() Tejun Heo
2024-06-24 12:35   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-24 16:15     ` Vincent Guittot
2024-06-24 19:24       ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-25  9:13         ` Vincent Guittot
2024-06-26 20:49           ` Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 11/39] cpufreq_schedutil: Refactor sugov_cpu_is_busy() Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 12/39] sched: Add normal_policy() Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 13/39] sched_ext: Add boilerplate for extensible scheduler class Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 14/39] sched_ext: Implement BPF " Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 15/39] sched_ext: Add scx_simple and scx_example_qmap example schedulers Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 16/39] sched_ext: Add sysrq-S which disables the BPF scheduler Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 17/39] sched_ext: Implement runnable task stall watchdog Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 18/39] sched_ext: Allow BPF schedulers to disallow specific tasks from joining SCHED_EXT Tejun Heo
2024-06-24 12:40   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-24 19:06     ` Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 19/39] sched_ext: Print sched_ext info when dumping stack Tejun Heo
2024-06-24 12:46   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-24 14:25     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-06-24 18:34     ` Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 20/39] sched_ext: Print debug dump after an error exit Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 21/39] tools/sched_ext: Add scx_show_state.py Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 22/39] sched_ext: Implement scx_bpf_kick_cpu() and task preemption support Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 23/39] sched_ext: Add a central scheduler which makes all scheduling decisions on one CPU Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 24/39] sched_ext: Make watchdog handle ops.dispatch() looping stall Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:10 ` [PATCH 25/39] sched_ext: Add task state tracking operations Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:10 ` [PATCH 26/39] sched_ext: Implement tickless support Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:10 ` [PATCH 27/39] sched_ext: Track tasks that are subjects of the in-flight SCX operation Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:10 ` [PATCH 28/39] sched_ext: Add cgroup support Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:10 ` [PATCH 29/39] sched_ext: Add a cgroup scheduler which uses flattened hierarchy Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:10 ` [PATCH 30/39] sched_ext: Implement SCX_KICK_WAIT Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:10 ` [PATCH 31/39] sched_ext: Implement sched_ext_ops.cpu_acquire/release() Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:10 ` [PATCH 32/39] sched_ext: Implement sched_ext_ops.cpu_online/offline() Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:10 ` [PATCH 33/39] sched_ext: Bypass BPF scheduler while PM events are in progress Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:10 ` [PATCH 34/39] sched_ext: Implement core-sched support Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:10 ` [PATCH 35/39] sched_ext: Add vtime-ordered priority queue to dispatch_q's Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:10 ` [PATCH 36/39] sched_ext: Implement DSQ iterator Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:10 ` [PATCH 37/39] sched_ext: Add cpuperf support Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:10 ` [PATCH 38/39] sched_ext: Documentation: scheduler: Document extensible scheduler class Tejun Heo
2024-05-02  2:24   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2024-05-01 15:10 ` [PATCH 39/39] sched_ext: Add selftests Tejun Heo
2024-05-02  8:48 ` [PATCHSET v6] sched: Implement BPF extensible scheduler class Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-02 19:20   ` Tejun Heo
2024-05-03  8:52     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-05 23:31       ` Tejun Heo
2024-05-13  8:03         ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-13 18:26           ` Steven Rostedt
2024-05-14  0:07             ` Qais Yousef
2024-05-14 21:34               ` David Vernet
2024-05-27 21:25                 ` Qais Yousef
2024-05-28 23:46                   ` Tejun Heo
2024-05-29 22:09                     ` Qais Yousef
2024-05-17  9:58               ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-27 20:29                 ` Qais Yousef
2024-05-14 20:22           ` Chris Mason
2024-05-14 22:06           ` Josh Don
2024-05-15 20:41           ` Tejun Heo
2024-05-21  0:19             ` Tejun Heo
2024-05-30 16:49               ` Tejun Heo
2024-05-06 18:47       ` Rik van Riel
2024-05-07 19:33         ` Tejun Heo
2024-05-07 19:47           ` Rik van Riel
2024-05-09  7:38       ` Changwoo Min
2024-05-10 18:24 ` Peter Jung [this message]
2024-05-13 20:36 ` Andrea Righi
2024-06-11 21:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-06-13 23:38   ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-19 20:56   ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-06-19 22:10     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-06-19 22:27       ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-06-19 22:55         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-06-20  2:35           ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-06-20  5:07             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-06-20 17:11               ` Linus Torvalds
2024-06-20 17:41                 ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-20 22:15                   ` [PATCH sched_ext/for-6.11] sched, sched_ext: Replace scx_next_task_picked() with sched_class->switch_class() Tejun Heo
2024-06-20 22:42                     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-06-21 19:46                       ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-24  9:04                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-24 18:41                           ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-24  9:02                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-21 19:52                     ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-24  8:59                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-24 21:01                       ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-25  7:49                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-25 23:30                           ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-26  8:28                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-26 17:56                               ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-20 18:47               ` [PATCHSET v6] sched: Implement BPF extensible scheduler class Thomas Gleixner
2024-06-20 19:20                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-06-21  9:35                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-06-21 16:34                     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-06-23  2:00                       ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-23 10:31                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-06-23 10:33                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-06-24 14:23                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-20 19:58                 ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-24  9:34                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-24 20:17                     ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-24 20:51                       ` [PATCH sched_ext/for-6.11] sched, sched_ext: Simplify dl_prio() case handling in sched_fork() Tejun Heo
2024-07-08 18:56                         ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-20 19:35             ` [PATCHSET v6] sched: Implement BPF extensible scheduler class Tejun Heo
2024-06-21 10:46               ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-06-21 21:14                 ` Chris Mason
2024-06-23  8:14                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-06-24 16:42                     ` Chris Mason
2024-06-24 18:11                       ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-24 22:01                         ` Peter Oskolkov
2024-06-24 22:17                     ` David Vernet
2024-06-24 21:54             ` Peter Oskolkov

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