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From: John Crispin <john@phrozen.org>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	keyhaede@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, nbd@nbd.name
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/12] net: mediatek: fix DQL support
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 08:43:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e1b52f75-edb7-8504-3e6d-40fcb03e39df@phrozen.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160605.003242.796780762112643713.davem@davemloft.net>



On 05/06/2016 09:32, David Miller wrote:
> From: John Crispin <john@phrozen.org>
> Date: Sun,  5 Jun 2016 08:32:54 +0200
> 
>> @@ -625,7 +625,16 @@ static int mtk_tx_map(struct sk_buff *skb, struct net_device *dev,
>>  	WRITE_ONCE(itxd->txd3, (TX_DMA_SWC | TX_DMA_PLEN0(skb_headlen(skb)) |
>>  				(!nr_frags * TX_DMA_LS0)));
>>  
>> -	netdev_sent_queue(dev, skb->len);
>> +	/* we have a single DMA ring so BQL needs to be updated for all devices
>> +	 * sitting on this ring
>> +	 */
>> +	for (i = 0; i < MTK_MAC_COUNT; i++) {
>> +		if (!eth->netdev[i])
>> +			continue;
>> +
>> +		netdev_sent_queue(eth->netdev[i], skb->len);
>> +	}
>> +
>>  	skb_tx_timestamp(skb);
> 
> Sorry, this is very far from working.
> 
> You cannot asynchronously touch the DQL state of another netdevice.
> 
> You have to hold the TX lock of a queue while changing it's DQL state,
> otherwise you'll corrupt the state.
> 
> This "loop over all possible devices on this DMA ring" is pretty
> expensive for the problem you're trying to solve.
> 
> You'll have to find another way to fix this bug, which BTW I'm not too
> clear about.  The commit message doesn't explain sufficiently what the
> actual problem is.  "not deterministic" doesn't give enough details.
> 

Hi David,

DQL is supposed to measure how much data is enqueued on a netdev. the
problem here is that two devices share the same hardware queue. fq_codel
for example uses the values from dql to base its QoS judgement on. if we
track the dql of the 2 devices separately then the values will not take
the actual amount of data enqueued into account but only parts of it.
this will make the queue length used as a basis for fq_codel
calculations non deterministic thus breaking qos. dql needs to track the
amount of data in the physical queue underlying the netdev to be useful.
hope that explanation is better to understand.

i think one solution would be to add some code to have 2 devices share
the same dql instance. would that be an acceptable solution ?

anyhow, i will resend the series without the dql patch today and then
worry about it afterwards.

	John

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-06  6:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-05  6:32 [PATCH 00/12] net: mediatek: various small fixes John Crispin
2016-06-05  6:32 ` [PATCH 01/12] net: mediatek: fix DQL support John Crispin
2016-06-05  7:32   ` David Miller
2016-06-06  6:43     ` John Crispin [this message]
2016-06-07 23:01       ` David Miller
2016-06-07 23:20         ` Tom Herbert
2016-06-05  6:32 ` [PATCH 02/12] net: mediatek: add missing return code check John Crispin
2016-06-05  6:32 ` [PATCH 03/12] net: mediatek: fix missing free of scratch memory John Crispin
2016-06-05  6:32 ` [PATCH 04/12] net: mediatek: invalid buffer lookup in mtk_tx_map() John Crispin
2016-06-05  6:32 ` [PATCH 05/12] net: mediatek: dropped rx packets are not being counted properly John Crispin
2016-06-05  6:32 ` [PATCH 06/12] net: mediatek: add next data pointer coherency protection John Crispin
2016-06-05  6:33 ` [PATCH 07/12] net: mediatek: disable all interrupts during probe John Crispin
2016-06-05  6:33 ` [PATCH 08/12] net: mediatek: fix threshold value John Crispin
2016-06-05  6:33 ` [PATCH 09/12] net: mediatek: increase watchdog_timeo John Crispin
2016-06-05 14:56   ` Andrew Lunn
2016-06-06  6:24     ` John Crispin
2016-06-06 12:21       ` Andrew Lunn
2016-06-06 12:38         ` John Crispin
2016-06-05  6:33 ` [PATCH 10/12] net: mediatek: fix off by one in the TX ring allocation John Crispin
2016-06-05  6:33 ` [PATCH 11/12] net: mediatek: only wake the queue if it is stopped John Crispin
2016-06-05  6:33 ` [PATCH 12/12] net: mediatek: remove superfluous queue wake up call John Crispin

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