From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S965056AbWGKBP4 (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Jul 2006 21:15:56 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S965049AbWGKBP4 (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Jul 2006 21:15:56 -0400 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.178]:54088 "EHLO py-out-1112.google.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S965056AbWGKBPz (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Jul 2006 21:15:55 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=QbQWRRP3OFAKs1RZSKpHXrA4rOKPDKPsBoLnUG5E4ZG+xrCVNT7UHBnQz7y0gzdlWzZaHvu/wrwO6njXpPB6PyT+KpEl7UeZAj4hUUIUcKabT9nUmSRxeEMJr81EzUqEpuX5kTAir4ESwvOhS4ufigYWHwUs/EG2DTtkBEfGeNY= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 21:15:54 -0400 From: "Daniel Bonekeeper" To: "Lee Revell" Subject: Re: Automatic Kernel Bug Report Cc: "Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu" , "Pavel Machek" , "Adrian Bunk" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <1152574888.19047.44.camel@mindpipe> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060709191107.GN13938@stusta.de> <200607092019.k69KJt66005527@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20060710081131.GA2251@elf.ucw.cz> <200607101759.k6AHxbda012403@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <1152574888.19047.44.camel@mindpipe> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 7/10/06, Lee Revell wrote: > On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 18:05 -0400, Daniel Bonekeeper wrote: > > That's a good example. Another example: a little while ago > > (http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/7/1/70) Daniel Drake from Gentoo was > > reporting a problem where page_mapcount(page) was getting negative. As > > it turned out, it was related with a nVidia proprietary driver that > > the machine was running. With the system, we just needed to search for > > "Eeek! page_mapcount(page) went negative! (-1)" on kernels 2.6.16.19 > > (maybe too generic), and he would see that lots of people reporting > > that has, between other things, nVidia drivers running. It's already a > > clue on where to start looking for. The same applies for lots of other > > stuff. > > That sounds backwards to me - any kernel bug reporting system should > immediately discard bug reports with the nvidia driver loaded, as such a > kernel is not debuggable. Our job is to do kernel, and anything related to it should not be discarded. The system has to have the flexibility to provide the same information ignoring tainted configurations, if it's that what you need. ("provide mechanism, not policy") Daniel -- What this world needs is a good five-dollar plasma weapon.