From: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
To: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/5] mm: Allow deferred splitting of arbitrary large anon folios
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2023 10:39:58 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e1ee2a95-aff1-461b-7e9b-9dd2fd0e70d3@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878rbof8cs.fsf@yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com>
On 10/07/2023 10:01, Huang, Ying wrote:
> Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com> writes:
>
>> On 10/07/2023 06:37, Huang, Ying wrote:
>>> Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Somehow I managed to reply only to the linux-arm-kernel list on first attempt so
>>>> resending:
>>>>
>>>> On 07/07/2023 09:21, Huang, Ying wrote:
>>>>> Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> With the introduction of large folios for anonymous memory, we would
>>>>>> like to be able to split them when they have unmapped subpages, in order
>>>>>> to free those unused pages under memory pressure. So remove the
>>>>>> artificial requirement that the large folio needed to be at least
>>>>>> PMD-sized.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
>>>>>> Reviewed-by: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
>>>>>> Reviewed-by: Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> mm/rmap.c | 2 +-
>>>>>> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/mm/rmap.c b/mm/rmap.c
>>>>>> index 82ef5ba363d1..bbcb2308a1c5 100644
>>>>>> --- a/mm/rmap.c
>>>>>> +++ b/mm/rmap.c
>>>>>> @@ -1474,7 +1474,7 @@ void page_remove_rmap(struct page *page, struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>>>>>> * page of the folio is unmapped and at least one page
>>>>>> * is still mapped.
>>>>>> */
>>>>>> - if (folio_test_pmd_mappable(folio) && folio_test_anon(folio))
>>>>>> + if (folio_test_large(folio) && folio_test_anon(folio))
>>>>>> if (!compound || nr < nr_pmdmapped)
>>>>>> deferred_split_folio(folio);
>>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> One possible issue is that even for large folios mapped only in one
>>>>> process, in zap_pte_range(), we will always call deferred_split_folio()
>>>>> unnecessarily before freeing a large folio.
>>>>
>>>> Hi Huang, thanks for reviewing!
>>>>
>>>> I have a patch that solves this problem by determining a range of ptes covered
>>>> by a single folio and doing a "batch zap". This prevents the need to add the
>>>> folio to the deferred split queue, only to remove it again shortly afterwards.
>>>> This reduces lock contention and I can measure a performance improvement for the
>>>> kernel compilation benchmark. See [1].
>>>>
>>>> However, I decided to remove it from this patch set on Yu Zhao's advice. We are
>>>> aiming for the minimal patch set to start with and wanted to focus people on
>>>> that. I intend to submit it separately later on.
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20230626171430.3167004-8-ryan.roberts@arm.com/
>>>
>>> Thanks for your information! "batch zap" can solve the problem.
>>>
>>> And, I agree with Matthew's comments to fix the large folios interaction
>>> issues before merging the patches to allocate large folios as in the
>>> following email.
>>>
>>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/ZKVdUDuwNWDUCWc5@casper.infradead.org/
>>>
>>> If so, we don't need to introduce the above problem or a large patchset.
>>
>> I appreciate Matthew's and others position about not wanting to merge a minimal
>> implementation while there are some fundamental features (e.g. compaction) it
>> doesn't play well with - I'm working to create a definitive list so these items
>> can be tracked and tackled.
>
> Good to know this, Thanks!
>
>> That said, I don't see this "batch zap" patch as an example of this. It's just a
>> performance enhancement that improves things even further than large anon folios
>> on their own. I'd rather concentrate on the core changes first then deal with
>> this type of thing later. Does that work for you?
>
> IIUC, allocating large folios upon page fault depends on splitting large
> folios in page_remove_rmap() to avoid memory wastage. Splitting large
> folios in page_remove_rmap() depends on "batch zap" to avoid performance
> regression in zap_pte_range(). So we need them to be done earlier. Or
> I miss something?
My point was just that large anon folios improves performance significantly
overall, despite a small perf regression in zap_pte_range(). That regression is
reduced further by a patch from Yin Fengwei to reduce the lock contention [1].
So it doesn't seem urgent to me to get the "batch zap" change in.
I'll add it to my list, then prioritize it against the other stuff.
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20230429082759.1600796-1-fengwei.yin@intel.com/
>
> Best Regards,
> Huang, Ying
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-07-10 9:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-07-03 13:53 [PATCH v2 0/5] variable-order, large folios for anonymous memory Ryan Roberts
2023-07-03 13:53 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] mm: Non-pmd-mappable, large folios for folio_add_new_anon_rmap() Ryan Roberts
2023-07-03 19:05 ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04 2:13 ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-04 11:19 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-04 2:14 ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-03 13:53 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] mm: Allow deferred splitting of arbitrary large anon folios Ryan Roberts
2023-07-07 8:21 ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-07 9:42 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-10 5:37 ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-10 8:29 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-10 9:01 ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-10 9:39 ` Ryan Roberts [this message]
2023-07-11 1:56 ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-03 13:53 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] mm: Default implementation of arch_wants_pte_order() Ryan Roberts
2023-07-03 19:50 ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04 13:20 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-05 2:07 ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-05 9:11 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-05 17:24 ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-05 18:01 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-06 19:33 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-07 10:00 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-04 2:22 ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-04 3:02 ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04 3:59 ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04 5:22 ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-04 5:42 ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04 12:36 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-04 13:23 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-05 1:40 ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-05 1:23 ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-05 2:18 ` Yin Fengwei
2023-07-03 13:53 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] mm: FLEXIBLE_THP for improved performance Ryan Roberts
2023-07-03 15:51 ` kernel test robot
2023-07-03 16:01 ` kernel test robot
2023-07-04 1:35 ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04 14:08 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-04 23:47 ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04 3:45 ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-04 14:20 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-04 23:35 ` Yin Fengwei
2023-07-04 23:57 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-05 9:54 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-05 12:08 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-07 8:01 ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-07 9:52 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-07 11:29 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-07 13:57 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-07 14:07 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-07 15:13 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-07 16:06 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-07 16:22 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-07 19:06 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-10 8:41 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-10 3:03 ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-10 8:55 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-10 9:18 ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-10 9:25 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-11 0:48 ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-10 2:49 ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-03 13:53 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] arm64: mm: Override arch_wants_pte_order() Ryan Roberts
2023-07-03 20:02 ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04 2:18 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] variable-order, large folios for anonymous memory Yu Zhao
2023-07-04 6:22 ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-04 7:11 ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04 15:36 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-04 23:52 ` Yin Fengwei
2023-07-05 0:21 ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-05 10:16 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-05 19:00 ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-05 19:38 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-06 8:02 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-07 11:40 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-07 13:12 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-07 13:24 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-10 10:07 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-10 16:57 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-10 16:53 ` Zi Yan
2023-07-19 15:49 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-19 16:05 ` Zi Yan
2023-07-19 18:37 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-11 21:11 ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-07-11 21:59 ` Matthew Wilcox
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