From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-alma10-1.taild15c8.ts.net [100.103.45.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C55B23C10AB for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2026 13:23:02 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=100.103.45.18 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1791465783; cv=none; b=aN/qWvp2fQ9YR6/biMmsVw7lFWLXWjrURFnvwpV5yyO+m7JAULAh3BRurYRb5+erns+Cxph5B8wuxm9BsvdZggbhPhYu7F9LYeAApoY8yjiXWWkCZfc9FMJ9JUmk/pkRKKWbhdnZkR2kzJ9TeJ85+TTS/T3Z5wtnFCV6Z/SyXCI= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1791465783; c=relaxed/simple; bh=MaCGyIJzHJW54Qy7IOnyWxNHgYZyUu6X7NsbVPc4ptM=; h=Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Subject:To:Cc:References:From: In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=VB/fe9kmS/XZnx/VKn0z4cVTKjNfEtqvhH4CHwwvQTsrEaxMe3f6PfvOOj9yEtV6AhDnSbGEj4WozFD7QQK8+MXFzW6n26LPEX5mVWWrnOmjDzp1YQGIFFlFLrE2X9UlZaT1ooqKQK8LL91XZUFnhA8uj9wiTqusX9cL8kujON4= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=NbTxk5BO; arc=none smtp.client-ip=100.103.45.18 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="NbTxk5BO" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6EDB61F000FF; Thu, 8 Oct 2026 13:23:01 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kernel.org; s=k20260515; t=1791465782; bh=h3MO1eSGoYlJNdJ+I9N33JjtRk7eYIGnTr/04BcHySo=; h=Date:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:In-Reply-To; b=NbTxk5BOA9SuqGxH16V0QAF2Uxh5VBWZaG+FAfeWsFBChb5zAHMdgmfek6JbxPcRM vlhm81X6PLEVxuuTN4InJg+l4ui4du6rASs63/M/2UGANqS8BtJtPCJUXVc/Zpp9j8 +D7f1bz7b3YtMKphWiXYXzvqO8D6JgKycEMlVVX5ujI0NbCBanXrBvSLe+MaASd4k4 dkuIPjGY8TNVBKN/5nyocn8c4TmhUSMpaOu5KtL/1OEbFjTjx0MlL+B6VW8Yb0sDw9 Ae7c7fjFWix/v9DfFh3uL/EtAUzp1RrgrZQBLb5uyaOmZsImnnsJtZVjlonsKru1mu b2Z2A4D/lLPhw== Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2026 15:22:56 +0200 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Beta Subject: Re: [PATCH] get_maintainer: only use THE REST as a fallback Content-Language: fr To: Konstantin Ryabitsev , "Jason A. Donenfeld" Cc: Joe Perches , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, users@kernel.org References: <20261008-get-maintainer-the-rest-fallback-v1-1-7d26d0b7aa34@linuxfoundation.org> <20261008-quiet-lucky-ferret-3498cb@lemur> From: Matthieu Baerts Autocrypt: addr=matttbe@kernel.org; keydata= xsFNBFXj+ekBEADxVr99p2guPcqHFeI/JcFxls6KibzyZD5TQTyfuYlzEp7C7A9swoK5iCvf YBNdx5Xl74NLSgx6y/1NiMQGuKeu+2BmtnkiGxBNanfXcnl4L4Lzz+iXBvvbtCbynnnqDDqU c7SPFMpMesgpcu1xFt0F6bcxE+0ojRtSCZ5HDElKlHJNYtD1uwY4UYVGWUGCF/+cY1YLmtfb WdNb/SFo+Mp0HItfBC12qtDIXYvbfNUGVnA5jXeWMEyYhSNktLnpDL2gBUCsdbkov5VjiOX7 CRTkX0UgNWRjyFZwThaZADEvAOo12M5uSBk7h07yJ97gqvBtcx45IsJwfUJE4hy8qZqsA62A nTRflBvp647IXAiCcwWsEgE5AXKwA3aL6dcpVR17JXJ6nwHHnslVi8WesiqzUI9sbO/hXeXw TDSB+YhErbNOxvHqCzZEnGAAFf6ges26fRVyuU119AzO40sjdLV0l6LE7GshddyazWZf0iac nEhX9NKxGnuhMu5SXmo2poIQttJuYAvTVUNwQVEx/0yY5xmiuyqvXa+XT7NKJkOZSiAPlNt6 VffjgOP62S7M9wDShUghN3F7CPOrrRsOHWO/l6I/qJdUMW+MHSFYPfYiFXoLUZyPvNVCYSgs 3oQaFhHapq1f345XBtfG3fOYp1K2wTXd4ThFraTLl8PHxCn4ywARAQABzSRNYXR0aGlldSBC YWVydHMgPG1hdHR0YmVAa2VybmVsLm9yZz7CwZEEEwEIADsCGwMFCwkIBwIGFQoJCAsCBBYC AwECHgECF4AWIQToy4X3aHcFem4n93r2t4JPQmmgcwUCZUDpDAIZAQAKCRD2t4JPQmmgcz33 EACjROM3nj9FGclR5AlyPUbAq/txEX7E0EFQCDtdLPrjBcLAoaYJIQUV8IDCcPjZMJy2ADp7 /zSwYba2rE2C9vRgjXZJNt21mySvKnnkPbNQGkNRl3TZAinO1Ddq3fp2c/GmYaW1NWFSfOmw MvB5CJaN0UK5l0/drnaA6Hxsu62V5UnpvxWgexqDuo0wfpEeP1PEqMNzyiVPvJ8bJxgM8qoC cpXLp1Rq/jq7pbUycY8GeYw2j+FVZJHlhL0w0Zm9CFHThHxRAm1tsIPc+oTorx7haXP+nN0J iqBXVAxLK2KxrHtMygim50xk2QpUotWYfZpRRv8dMygEPIB3f1Vi5JMwP4M47NZNdpqVkHrm jvcNuLfDgf/vqUvuXs2eA2/BkIHcOuAAbsvreX1WX1rTHmx5ud3OhsWQQRVL2rt+0p1DpROI 3Ob8F78W5rKr4HYvjX2Inpy3WahAm7FzUY184OyfPO/2zadKCqg8n01mWA9PXxs84bFEV2mP VzC5j6K8U3RNA6cb9bpE5bzXut6T2gxj6j+7TsgMQFhbyH/tZgpDjWvAiPZHb3sV29t8XaOF BwzqiI2AEkiWMySiHwCCMsIH9WUH7r7vpwROko89Tk+InpEbiphPjd7qAkyJ+tNIEWd1+MlX ZPtOaFLVHhLQ3PLFLkrU3+Yi3tXqpvLE3gO3LM7BTQRV4/npARAA5+u/Sx1n9anIqcgHpA7l 5SUCP1e/qF7n5DK8LiM10gYglgY0XHOBi0S7vHppH8hrtpizx+7t5DBdPJgVtR6SilyK0/mp 9nWHDhc9rwU3KmHYgFFsnX58eEmZxz2qsIY8juFor5r7kpcM5dRR9aB+HjlOOJJgyDxcJTwM 1ey4L/79P72wuXRhMibN14SX6TZzf+/XIOrM6TsULVJEIv1+NdczQbs6pBTpEK/G2apME7vf mjTsZU26Ezn+LDMX16lHTmIJi7Hlh7eifCGGM+g/AlDV6aWKFS+sBbwy+YoS0Zc3Yz8zrdbi Kzn3kbKd+99//mysSVsHaekQYyVvO0KD2KPKBs1S/ImrBb6XecqxGy/y/3HWHdngGEY2v2IP Qox7mAPznyKyXEfG+0rrVseZSEssKmY01IsgwwbmN9ZcqUKYNhjv67WMX7tNwiVbSrGLZoqf Xlgw4aAdnIMQyTW8nE6hH/Iwqay4S2str4HZtWwyWLitk7N+e+vxuK5qto4AxtB7VdimvKUs x6kQO5F3YWcC3vCXCgPwyV8133+fIR2L81R1L1q3swaEuh95vWj6iskxeNWSTyFAVKYYVskG V+OTtB71P1XCnb6AJCW9cKpC25+zxQqD2Zy0dK3u2RuKErajKBa/YWzuSaKAOkneFxG3LJIv Hl7iqPF+JDCjB5sAEQEAAcLBXwQYAQIACQUCVeP56QIbDAAKCRD2t4JPQmmgc5VnD/9YgbCr HR1FbMbm7td54UrYvZV/i7m3dIQNXK2e+Cbv5PXf19ce3XluaE+wA8D+vnIW5mbAAiojt3Mb 6p0WJS3QzbObzHNgAp3zy/L4lXwc6WW5vnpWAzqXFHP8D9PTpqvBALbXqL06smP47JqbyQxj Xf7D2rrPeIqbYmVY9da1KzMOVf3gReazYa89zZSdVkMojfWsbq05zwYU+SCWS3NiyF6QghbW voxbFwX1i/0xRwJiX9NNbRj1huVKQuS4W7rbWA87TrVQPXUAdkyd7FRYICNW+0gddysIwPoa KrLfx3Ba6Rpx0JznbrVOtXlihjl4KV8mtOPjYDY9u+8x412xXnlGl6AC4HLu2F3ECkamY4G6 UxejX+E6vW6Xe4n7H+rEX5UFgPRdYkS1TA/X3nMen9bouxNsvIJv7C6adZmMHqu/2azX7S7I vrxxySzOw9GxjoVTuzWMKWpDGP8n71IFeOot8JuPZtJ8omz+DZel+WCNZMVdVNLPOd5frqOv mpz0VhFAlNTjU1Vy0CnuxX3AM51J8dpdNyG0S8rADh6C8AKCDOfUstpq28/6oTaQv7QZdge0 JY6dglzGKnCi/zsmp2+1w559frz4+IC7j/igvJGX4KDDKUs0mlld8J2u2sBXv7CGxdzQoHaz lzVbFe7fduHbABmYz9cefQpO7wDE/Q== Organization: NGI0 Core In-Reply-To: <20261008-quiet-lucky-ferret-3498cb@lemur> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Konstantin, On 08/10/2026 15:10, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > On Thu, Oct 08, 2026 at 03:03:11PM +0200, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 8, 2026 at 2:56 PM Konstantin Ryabitsev >> wrote: >>> This issue came up during the 2026 Maintainer Summit and the consensus >>> was that "always include linux-kernel for every patch" was never the >>> intent. Thank you for the patch! >> Thanks for communicating this! I had always assumed the opposite, >> based on what I saw happening. Glad it's been settled. > > Note, that if we DO want to send all patches to a dedicated mailing list, this > can be accommodated, too -- just not the list with 2100 subscribers (because > it's not working). We have patches@lists.linux.dev, which was originally set > up as an archive-only dumping ground with no subscribers (by design). > > If considered useful, I can update this patch to get us both worlds: > > - THE REST actually works as a fallback > - patches@lists.linux.dev is included on all patches as an archival list Is this list actively being used? The risk I see with this list is having someone sending a new version of an existing patch only to this list: this version will then be picked by tools like b4. If the maintainer doesn't pay attention to the info messages, a wrong version might be applied instead. Maybe b4 should catch such patches? Or would this be required because some subsystem ML's are not on lore? Cheers, Matt -- Sponsored by the NGI0 Core fund.