From: Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>,
Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>,
Yishai Hadas <yishaih@nvidia.com>,
Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@nvidia.com>, <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>, <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH mlx5-next 2/7] vfio: Add an API to check migration state transition validity
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 13:57:13 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e216c772-1921-c728-b91a-56b41048cbfa@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210928131958.61b3abec.alex.williamson@redhat.com>
On 9/28/2021 10:19 PM, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 20:12:39 -0300
> Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 04:46:48PM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
>>>> + enum { MAX_STATE = VFIO_DEVICE_STATE_RESUMING };
>>>> + static const u8 vfio_from_state_table[MAX_STATE + 1][MAX_STATE + 1] = {
>>>> + [VFIO_DEVICE_STATE_STOP] = {
>>>> + [VFIO_DEVICE_STATE_RUNNING] = 1,
>>>> + [VFIO_DEVICE_STATE_RESUMING] = 1,
>>>> + },
>>> Our state transition diagram is pretty weak on reachable transitions
>>> out of the _STOP state, why do we select only these two as valid?
>> I have no particular opinion on specific states here, however adding
>> more states means more stuff for drivers to implement and more risk
>> driver writers will mess up this uAPI.
> It looks like state transitions were largely discussed in v9 and v10 of
> the migration proposals:
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/1573578220-7530-2-git-send-email-kwankhede@nvidia.com/
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/1576527700-21805-2-git-send-email-kwankhede@nvidia.com/
>
> I'm not seeing that we really excluded many transitions there.
>
>> So only on those grounds I'd suggest to keep this to the minimum
>> needed instead of the maximum logically possible..
>>
>> Also, probably the FSM comment from the uapi header file should be
>> moved into a function comment above this function?
> It's not clear this function shouldn't be anything more than:
>
> if (new_state > MAX_STATE || old_state > MAX_STATE)
> return false; /* exited via device reset, */
> /* entered via transition fault */
>
> return true;
>
> That's still only 5 fully interconnected states to work between, and
> potentially a 6th if we decide _RESUMING|_RUNNING is valid for a device
> supporting post-copy.
>
> In defining the device state, we tried to steer away from defining it
> in terms of the QEMU migration API, but rather as a set of controls
> that could be used to support that API to leave us some degree of
> independence that QEMU implementation might evolve.
The state machine is not related to QEMU specifically.
The state machine defines an agreement between user application (let's
say QEMU) and VFIO.
If a user application would like to move, for example, from RESUMING to
SAVING state, then the kernel should fail. I don't that there is a
device that can support it.
If you prefer we check this inside our mlx5 vfio driver, we can do it.
But we think that this is a common logic according to the defined FSM.
Do you prefer code duplication in vendor vfio-pci drivers ?
> To that extent, it actually seems easier for a device implementation to
> focus on bit definition rather than the state machine node.
>
> I'd also vote that any clarification of state validity and transitions
> belongs in the uAPI header and a transition test function should
> reference that header as the source of truth, rather than the other way
> around. Thanks,
Yes, I guess this is possible.
>
> Alex
>
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Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2021-09-22 10:38 ` [PATCH mlx5-next 1/7] PCI/IOV: Provide internal VF index Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-22 21:59 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-09-23 6:35 ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-24 13:08 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-09-25 10:10 ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-25 17:41 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-09-26 6:36 ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-26 20:23 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-09-27 11:55 ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-27 14:47 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-09-22 10:38 ` [PATCH mlx5-next 2/7] vfio: Add an API to check migration state transition validity Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-23 10:33 ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2021-09-23 11:17 ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-23 13:55 ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-24 7:44 ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2021-09-24 9:37 ` Kirti Wankhede
2021-09-26 9:09 ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-26 16:17 ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2021-09-27 18:24 ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-27 18:29 ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2021-09-27 22:46 ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-27 23:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-28 19:19 ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-28 19:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-28 20:18 ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-29 16:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-29 18:06 ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-29 18:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-29 10:57 ` Max Gurtovoy [this message]
2021-09-29 10:44 ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-29 12:35 ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-29 13:26 ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-29 13:50 ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-29 14:36 ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-29 15:17 ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-29 15:28 ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-29 16:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-29 21:48 ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-29 22:44 ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-30 9:25 ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-30 12:41 ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-29 23:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-30 9:34 ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-30 14:47 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-30 15:32 ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-30 16:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-30 16:51 ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-30 17:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-22 10:38 ` [PATCH mlx5-next 3/7] vfio/pci_core: Make the region->release() function optional Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-23 13:57 ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-22 10:38 ` [PATCH mlx5-next 4/7] net/mlx5: Introduce migration bits and structures Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-24 5:48 ` Mark Zhang
2021-09-22 10:38 ` [PATCH mlx5-next 5/7] net/mlx5: Expose APIs to get/put the mlx5 core device Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-22 10:38 ` [PATCH mlx5-next 6/7] mlx5_vfio_pci: Expose migration commands over mlx5 device Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-28 20:22 ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-29 5:36 ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-22 10:38 ` [PATCH mlx5-next 7/7] mlx5_vfio_pci: Implement vfio_pci driver for mlx5 devices Leon Romanovsky
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