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From: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@redhat.com>
To: Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@proton.me>
Cc: "Wedson Almeida Filho" <wedsonaf@gmail.com>,
	"Zhi Wang" <zhiw@nvidia.com>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@samsung.com>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Wedson Almeida Filho" <walmeida@microsoft.com>,
	ajanulgu@redhat.com, "Andy Currid" <acurrid@nvidia.com>,
	"Neo Jia" <cjia@nvidia.com>, "John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/10] Allocation APIs
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2024 22:14:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e29f22c5-3d65-4d60-af0b-a440b6746dba@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZiuCm4VtFiCfzTPI@pollux>

On 4/26/24 12:31, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 06:32:26AM +0000, Benno Lossin wrote:

<snip>

>> So aside from being able to use `Vec` and `Box` etc, I don't think there
>> are any advantages to using `allocator_api`. The disadvantages are that
>> it's another unstable feature that we need to get stabilized in some
>> form. So it increases the amount of time it takes for us to be able to
>> support multiple versions of Rust.
>>
>> I think it's fine for you to experiment with the `allocator_api` and see
>> where that leads you. But when we discuss merging patches that enable
>> unstable features, we should be sure that the feature is truly needed.
>> And that it cannot be replaced by custom code (it also depends on how
>> complicated it is, but I think `allocator_api` would be simple enough).
> 
> I agree, though I'm not asking to re-enable allocator_api necessarily.
> 
> My original question regarding this series was what's the plan on how to
> implement alternative allocators given the changes of this series.
> 
> This series clearly is a huge improvement, however, before it was quite clear
> how to implement alternative allocators. Now it's rather unclear.
> 
> It's good that we discuss the options now and I'm also happy to contribute to
> the implementation, but I also think that within the context of this series we
> should give an answer to this question.

In order to get a little closer to an answer I sketched up a patch series [1] to
support alternative allocators again and added, besides the KernelAllocator itself,
VmAllocator as an example. The patches can also be found in this tree [2].

Please let me know what you think.

- Danilo

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/20240429201202.3490-1-dakr@redhat.com/T/#u
[2] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/nova/-/tree/topic/allocator


      reply	other threads:[~2024-04-29 20:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-28  1:35 Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-03-28  1:35 ` [PATCH v3 01/10] rust: kernel: move `allocator` module under `alloc` Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-03-28  1:35 ` [PATCH v3 02/10] rust: alloc: introduce the `VecExt` trait Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-03-28  1:35 ` [PATCH v3 03/10] kbuild: use the upstream `alloc` crate Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-03-28  1:35 ` [PATCH v3 04/10] rust: alloc: remove our fork of the " Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-03-28  1:35 ` [PATCH v3 05/10] rust: alloc: introduce allocation flags Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-03-28  1:35 ` [PATCH v3 06/10] rust: alloc: introduce the `BoxExt` trait Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-03-29 17:59   ` Boqun Feng
2024-03-30  0:57     ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-03-30 13:35   ` Benno Lossin
2024-03-28  1:36 ` [PATCH v3 07/10] rust: alloc: update `VecExt` to take allocation flags Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-03-30 13:30   ` Benno Lossin
2024-03-28  1:36 ` [PATCH v3 08/10] rust: sync: update `Arc` and `UniqueArc` " Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-03-28  1:36 ` [PATCH v3 09/10] rust: init: update `init` module " Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-03-28  1:36 ` [PATCH v3 10/10] rust: kernel: remove usage of `allocator_api` unstable feature Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-03-29 18:25 ` [PATCH v3 00/10] Allocation APIs Boqun Feng
2024-03-29 23:23   ` Boqun Feng
2024-03-30  0:54   ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-04-08  6:47 ` Zhi Wang
2024-05-01 22:06   ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-04-16 21:03 ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-04-23 15:43 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-04-25 15:36   ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-04-25 16:09     ` Benno Lossin
2024-04-25 18:03       ` Zhi Wang
2024-04-25 18:42       ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-04-25 20:52         ` Benno Lossin
2024-04-25 22:57           ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-04-26  6:32             ` Benno Lossin
2024-04-26 10:31               ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-04-29 20:14                 ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]

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