From: jack marrow <jackmarrow2@gmail.com>
To: Thomas Schoebel-Theuer <thomas.schoebel-theuer@1und1.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Memory usage per memory zone
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:06:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e2dc2c680903110806r56750933q19ed1c71e60bec9c@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200903111439.57510.thomas.schoebel-theuer@1und1.de>
2009/3/11 Thomas Schoebel-Theuer <thomas.schoebel-theuer@1und1.de>:
> Am Mittwoch, 11. März 2009 11:41:43 schrieb jack marrow:
>> I have a box where the oom-killer is killing processes due to running
>> out of memory in zone_normal. I can see using slabtop that the inode
>> caches are using up lots of memory and guess this is the problem, so
>> have cleared them using an echo to drop_caches.
>
> Hi Jack,
>
> my experience with plain old 2.6.24 on 32bit _production_ boxes was that under
> heavy load and after >30days uptime we saw an sudden inflation of oom-killers
> on some of them until those boxes died. The standard kernel statistics about
> memory looked much the same as yours (and I suspect they could have been
> wrong or at least misleading, but I have neither checked nor tried to fix).
>
>> is it possible to use slabtop
>> (or any other way) to view ram usage per zone so I can pick out the
>> culprit?
>
> Try the attached experimental hack which can provide you with some insight
> about whats really going on in the _physical_ memory. Since it does not
> allocate any memory for the purpose of displaying those memory patterns it
> wants to examine, you have to allocate a large enough buffer in userspace.
> Don't use cat, but something like dd with parameters such as bs=4M (as
> mentioned in the comment). Probably you have to adjust the patch to some
> newer kernel versions, and/or to fix some sysctl table checks if you want to
> get it upstreams (I will not). And, of course, you can visualize more/other
> flags as well.
>
> After gaining some insight with /proc/sys/vm/mempattern and some development
> of further experimental patches which successfully reduced fragmentation (but
> finally only _delayed_ the oom problems without being able to _fundamentally_
> resolve them), the ultimate solution was just to use CONFIG_VMSPLIT_2G or
> even CONFIG_VMSPLIT_1G in order to overcome the artificial shortening of
> zone_normal.
>
> This supports old wisdom that an OS cannot give you resources it just does not
> possess... Just make sure you have enough resources for your working set.
> Thats all.
>
> In the hope of being helpful,
>
> Thomas
>
Thanks a lot for this Thomas. I'm not able to run a patched kernel on
this box, but I'll keep this in mind for future.
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Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-11 10:41 jack marrow
2009-03-11 11:43 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-03-11 11:51 ` jack marrow
2009-03-11 12:11 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-03-11 12:16 ` jack marrow
2009-03-11 12:26 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-03-12 7:53 ` jack marrow
2009-03-12 7:59 ` Wu Fengguang
[not found] ` <e2dc2c680903120104h4d19a3f6j57ad045bc06f9a90@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <20090312081113.GA19506@localhost>
2009-03-12 8:48 ` jack marrow
2009-03-12 11:14 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-03-12 11:39 ` jack marrow
[not found] ` <e2dc2c680903120117j7be962b2xd63f3296f8f65a46@mail.gmail.com>
2009-03-12 10:38 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-03-12 11:38 ` jack marrow
2009-03-12 11:48 ` jack marrow
2009-03-12 12:06 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-03-12 11:51 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-03-12 12:01 ` jack marrow
2009-03-11 13:39 ` Thomas Schoebel-Theuer
2009-03-11 15:06 ` jack marrow [this message]
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