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From: "Arınç ÜNAL" <arinc.unal@arinc9.com>
To: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: Daniel Golle <daniel@makrotopia.org>,
	DENG Qingfang <dqfext@gmail.com>,
	Sean Wang <sean.wang@mediatek.com>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
	<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
	mithat.guner@xeront.com, erkin.bozoglu@xeront.com,
	Bartel Eerdekens <bartel.eerdekens@constell8.be>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 1/7] net: dsa: mt7530: empty default case on mt7530_setup_port5()
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2024 20:44:39 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e3b4add6-425c-46ca-9da5-8713055fc422@arinc9.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZbzUotyQm/FyKK7G@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

On 2.02.2024 14:40, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> While reviewing this change, but not related to it, I notice that this
> function sets the TX delay based on the RGMII interface mode. This isn't
> correct. I've explained why this is this many times in the past, but
> essentially it comes down to the model:
> 
> 
> phy-mode in NIC node	Network driver	PCB		PHY
> rgmii			no delays	delays		no delays
> rgmii-id		no delays	no delays	tx/rx delays
> rgmii-txid		no delays	no delays	tx delays
> rgmii-rxid		no delays	no delays	rx delays
> 
> Then we have rx-internal-delay-ps and tx-internal-delay-ps in the NIC
> node which define the RGMII delays at the local end and similar
> properties for the PHY node.
> 
> 
> So, if we take the view that, when a switch is connected to a NIC in
> RGMII mode, then the phy-mode specified delays still should not impact
> the local NIC.
> 
> Now, for the switch, we specify the phy-mode in the port node as well.
> Consider the case of a switch port connected to a RGMII PHY. This has
> to operate in exactly the same way as a normal NIC - that is, the
> RGMII delays at the port should be ignored as it's the responsibility
> of a PHY.
> 
> The final scenario to examine is the case of a RGMII switch port
> connected to a NIC. The NIC's phy-mode has no way to be communicated
> to DSA or vice versa, so neither phy-mode can impact the other side
> of the RGMII link, but should only place the link into RGMII mode.
> Given everything I've said above, the only way to configure RGMII
> delays is via the rx-internal-delay-ps and tx-internal-delay-ps
> properties. So, DSA drivers should _not_ be configuring their ports
> with RGMII delays based on the RGMII phy interface mode.
> 
> The above is my purely logically reasoned point of view on this
> subject. Others may have other (to me completely illogical)
> interpretations that can only lead to interoperability issues.

I will address this with the next patch series. Thank you for explaining it
in detail.

Arınç

  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-02 17:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-02  9:19 [PATCH net-next v3 0/7] MT7530 DSA Subdriver Improvements Act II Arınç ÜNAL via B4 Relay
2024-02-02  9:19 ` [PATCH net-next v3 1/7] net: dsa: mt7530: empty default case on mt7530_setup_port5() Arınç ÜNAL via B4 Relay
2024-02-02 11:40   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-02-02 17:44     ` Arınç ÜNAL [this message]
2024-02-02 18:05       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-02-02 20:25         ` Andrew Lunn
2024-02-05 20:29         ` Vladimir Oltean
2024-02-02  9:19 ` [PATCH net-next v3 2/7] net: dsa: mt7530: call port 6 setup from mt7530_mac_config() Arınç ÜNAL via B4 Relay
2024-02-02 11:45   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-02-02  9:19 ` [PATCH net-next v3 3/7] net: dsa: mt7530: remove pad_setup function pointer Arınç ÜNAL via B4 Relay
2024-02-02 11:46   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-02-02  9:19 ` [PATCH net-next v3 4/7] net: dsa: mt7530: move XTAL check to mt7530_setup() Arınç ÜNAL via B4 Relay
2024-02-02 11:48   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-02-02 18:16     ` Arınç ÜNAL
2024-02-02 18:39       ` Daniel Golle
2024-02-04 13:55         ` Arınç ÜNAL
2024-02-04 14:18           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-02-04 15:55             ` Arınç ÜNAL
2024-02-04 16:38               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-02-04 16:51                 ` Arınç ÜNAL
2024-02-04 17:07                   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-02-04 17:14                     ` Arınç ÜNAL
2024-02-02  9:19 ` [PATCH net-next v3 5/7] net: dsa: mt7530: simplify mt7530_setup_port6() and change to void Arınç ÜNAL via B4 Relay
2024-02-02 11:51   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-02-02  9:19 ` [PATCH net-next v3 6/7] net: dsa: mt7530: correct port capabilities of MT7988 Arınç ÜNAL via B4 Relay
2024-02-02  9:19 ` [PATCH net-next v3 7/7] net: dsa: mt7530: do not clear config->supported_interfaces Arınç ÜNAL via B4 Relay
2024-02-02 11:52   ` Russell King (Oracle)

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