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From: Santhosh Kumar K <s-k6@ti.com>
To: Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Cc: <broonie@kernel.org>, <krzk+dt@kernel.org>, <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	<richard@nod.at>, <vigneshr@ti.com>, <pratyush@kernel.org>,
	<mwalle@kernel.org>, <takahiro.kuwano@infineon.com>,
	<linux-spi@vger.kernel.org>, <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
	<praneeth@ti.com>, <u-kumar1@ti.com>, <a-dutta@ti.com>,
	<s-k6@ti.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 02/13] spi: dt-bindings: cdns,qspi-nor: add PHY tuning pattern partition property
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2026 17:34:07 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e3ceabe7-008c-4969-8e22-97ffa4afec4f@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87cxy6ydb6.fsf@bootlin.com>

Hello Rob and Miquel,

On 04/06/26 12:58, Miquel Raynal wrote:
> On 03/06/2026 at 12:38:46 -05, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2026 at 11:01 AM Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> On 02/06/2026 at 11:49:45 -05, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 27, 2026 at 11:25:16PM +0530, Santhosh Kumar K wrote:
>>>>> PHY tuning requires a known data pattern to be readable from flash.
>>>>> When no partition is explicitly identified, the controller must search
>>>>> all available partitions to locate the pattern by label, which adds
>>>>> overhead and relies on label naming conventions outside the
>>>>> controller's control.
>>>>
>>>> I agree 'label' is not the best choice. Software should not care what
>>>> 'label' contains. It should really be 'compatible' instead.
>>>
>>> But compatible does not seem relevant in this case, right? We are just
>>> flagging the location of "some useful data for the controller".
>>
>> compatible is what tells us what a region contains and how to use it.
>> That seems exactly what we need to define here.
> 
> We usually talk about "programming model" when it comes to compatible,
> here we just need to point at an offset which is in no way different
> (from a hardware standpoint) than the other offsets. I honestly feel
> like a phandle property would be simpler, also because compatibles in
> MTD are already quite complex to manage and I would prefer not to add
> more complexity into the parsing logic.
> 
>>>>> Add cdns,phy-pattern-partition, a phandle property that allows the DT
>>>>> author to directly reference the flash partition holding the PHY tuning
>>>>> pattern. The controller uses this partition during calibration, avoiding
>>>>> the partition search entirely.
>>>>
>>>> Do you have any data that this approach being "direct" is faster? In
>>>> fact, it might be worse. Instead of searching just the limited number of
>>>> partition subnodes, you now search the entire tree for a matching
>>>> phandle value. We do have phandle caching, so that might save you
>>>> here.
>>>
>>> True, but besides performance considerations, I personally do not find
>>> elegant using a partition name/label, but maybe that's just personal
>>> taste :-)
>>
>> I agree. That's true for all the partition nodes with only node name
>> or label to go on. We should fix that at the source. However, you
>> already have to support using label,
> 
> Hum, no? There is downstream support for labels in TI kernels, but we
> explicitly asked Santhosh to drop it for mainline inclusion. His commit
> message may be a bit misleading on this regard because he is mentioning
> labels like if we were already using them, despite the fact that we are
> not.

Yeah, my bad, the commit message is a bit misleading.

Just to clarify:
  - The phandle was chosen for correctness, not performance
  - There is no existing support to reference via label

I'll update the commit message in v4 to make this clearer.

Thanks,
Santhosh.

> 
>> so anything else is supporting a
>> 2nd way whether it is compatible or a phandle property. Is it really
>> worth it here?
>>
>> Rob
> 
> Thanks,
> Miquèl


  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-04 12:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-27 17:55 [PATCH v3 00/13] spi: cadence-quadspi: add PHY tuning support Santhosh Kumar K
2026-05-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v3 01/13] spi: dt-bindings: allow spi-max-frequency to specify a frequency pair Santhosh Kumar K
2026-05-28  8:32   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-05-28 17:36   ` Conor Dooley
2026-05-30  8:54     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-06-01  7:45     ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-06-02 12:05       ` Miquel Raynal
2026-06-02 16:18         ` Conor Dooley
2026-06-03 15:54           ` Miquel Raynal
2026-06-03 16:07             ` Conor Dooley
2026-06-03 16:29               ` Miquel Raynal
2026-06-03 16:40                 ` Conor Dooley
2026-06-04  7:14                   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-06-04  8:36                     ` Conor Dooley
2026-06-05  6:32                       ` Miquel Raynal
2026-06-05  7:17                         ` Conor Dooley
2026-06-05  7:26                           ` Miquel Raynal
2026-06-05 15:20                             ` Conor Dooley
2026-06-05 16:55                               ` Miquel Raynal
2026-05-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v3 02/13] spi: dt-bindings: cdns,qspi-nor: add PHY tuning pattern partition property Santhosh Kumar K
2026-05-28  8:34   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-05-30  8:52   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-06-01  8:26     ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-06-01 11:26       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-06-01 11:47         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-06-02  6:30           ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-06-02 12:08             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-06-02 12:36             ` Miquel Raynal
2026-06-02 12:48               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-06-04 12:01                 ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-06-02 16:49   ` Rob Herring
2026-06-03 16:01     ` Miquel Raynal
2026-06-03 17:38       ` Rob Herring
2026-06-03 19:00         ` Michael Walle
2026-06-04 12:07           ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-06-04  7:28         ` Miquel Raynal
2026-06-04 12:04           ` Santhosh Kumar K [this message]
2026-05-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v3 03/13] spi: parse two-element spi-max-frequency property Santhosh Kumar K
2026-05-28  8:37   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-05-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v3 04/13] spi: spi-mem: add spi_mem_apply_base_freq_cap() Santhosh Kumar K
2026-05-28  8:43   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-06-04 12:10     ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-06-05  6:15       ` Miquel Raynal
2026-05-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v3 05/13] spi: spi-mem: add execute_tuning callback and spi_mem_execute_tuning() Santhosh Kumar K
2026-05-28  8:44   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-05-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v3 06/13] spi: cadence-quadspi: move cqspi_readdata_capture earlier Santhosh Kumar K
2026-05-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v3 07/13] spi: cadence-quadspi: add DQS support to read data capture Santhosh Kumar K
2026-05-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v3 08/13] spi: cadence-quadspi: add PHY tuning support Santhosh Kumar K
2026-05-28  8:54   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-06-01  8:44     ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-05-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v3 09/13] spi: cadence-quadspi: reject 2-byte-address DDR ops on PHY-tunable hardware Santhosh Kumar K
2026-05-28  9:01   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-06-01  9:27     ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-06-02 12:25       ` Miquel Raynal
2026-05-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v3 10/13] spi: cadence-quadspi: enable PHY for direct reads and indirect writes Santhosh Kumar K
2026-05-28  9:09   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-06-01  8:39     ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-06-02 12:15       ` Miquel Raynal
2026-05-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v3 11/13] mtd: spinand: run PHY tuning after init and update dirmap frequencies Santhosh Kumar K
2026-05-28  9:27   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-06-01  9:16     ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-06-02 12:18       ` Miquel Raynal
2026-05-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v3 12/13] mtd: spi-nor: extract read op template construction into helper Santhosh Kumar K
2026-05-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v3 13/13] mtd: spi-nor: run PHY tuning after init and update dirmap frequency Santhosh Kumar K
2026-05-28  8:30 ` [PATCH v3 00/13] spi: cadence-quadspi: add PHY tuning support Miquel Raynal
2026-06-01  8:02   ` Santhosh Kumar K

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