From: Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>
To: Wanpeng Li <kernellwp@gmail.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/4] KVM: LAPIC: Implement Exitless Timer
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 12:49:49 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e4f39694a809461702f3eaae1c12e89ba35976dc.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANRm+CxTNBAEpay=Gf25vV_aCtzRrtgz1N5CtGEwu_kg=F51+Q@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, 2019-06-13 at 16:25 +0800, Wanpeng Li wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 at 15:59, Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 2019-06-11 at 20:17 +0800, Wanpeng Li wrote:
> > > Dedicated instances are currently disturbed by unnecessary jitter due
> > > to the emulated lapic timers fire on the same pCPUs which vCPUs resident.
> > > There is no hardware virtual timer on Intel for guest like ARM. Both
> > > programming timer in guest and the emulated timer fires incur vmexits.
> > > This patchset tries to avoid vmexit which is incurred by the emulated
> > > timer fires in dedicated instance scenario.
> > >
> > > When nohz_full is enabled in dedicated instances scenario, the unpinned
> > > timer will be moved to the nearest busy housekeepers after commit 444969223c8
> > > ("sched/nohz: Fix affine unpinned timers mess"). However, KVM always makes
> > > lapic timer pinned to the pCPU which vCPU residents, the reason is explained
> > > by commit 61abdbe0 (kvm: x86: make lapic hrtimer pinned). Actually, these
> > > emulated timers can be offload to the housekeeping cpus since APICv
> > > is really common in recent years. The guest timer interrupt is injected by
> > > posted-interrupt which is delivered by housekeeping cpu once the emulated
> > > timer fires.
> > >
> > > The host admin should fine tuned, e.g. dedicated instances scenario w/
> > > nohz_full cover the pCPUs which vCPUs resident, several pCPUs surplus
> > > for housekeeping, disable mwait/hlt/pause vmexits to occupy the pCPUs,
> > > fortunately preemption timer is disabled after mwait is exposed to
> > > guest which makes emulated timer offload can be possible.
> > > ~3% redis performance benefit can be observed on Skylake server.
> >
> > I don't yet know the kvm well enough to review this patch series, but overall I really like the idea.
>
> Thank you. :)
>
> > I researched this area some time ago, to see what can be done to reduce the number of vmexits,
> > to an absolute minimum.
> >
> > I have one small question, just out of curiosity.
> >
> > Why do you require mwait in the guest to be enabled?
> >
> > If I understand it correctly, you say
> > that when mwait in the guest is disabled, then vmx preemption timer will be used,
> > and thus it will handle the apic timer?
>
> Actually we don't have this restriction in v3, the patchset
> description need to update. The lapic timer which guest use can be
> emulated by software(a hrtimer on host) or VT-x hardware (VMX
> preemption timer). VMX preemption timer triggers vmexit when the timer
> fires on the same pCPU which vCPU is running on, so the injection
> vmexit can't be avoided. The hrtimer on host is used to emulate the
> lapic timer when VMX preemption timer is disabled. After commit
> 9642d18eee2cd(nohz: Affine unpinned timers to housekeepers), unpinned
> timers will be moved to nearest busy housekeepers, which means that we
> can offload the hrtimer to the housekeeping cpus instead of running on
> the pCPU which vCPU residents, the timer fires on the housekeeping
> cpus and be injected by posted-interrupt to the vCPU w/o incur
> vmexits. In patchset v3, the preemption timer will be disarmed if
> lapic timer is injected by posted-interrupt. VMX preemption timer stop
> working in C-states deeper than C2, that's why I utilize mwait expose
> before. (commit 386c6ddbda1 X86/VMX: Disable VMX preemption timer if
> MWAIT is not intercepted)
That explains it very well. Thank you!
Best regards,
Maxim Levitsky
prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-06-13 15:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-06-11 12:17 Wanpeng Li
2019-06-11 12:17 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] KVM: LAPIC: Make lapic timer unpinned when timer is injected by pi Wanpeng Li
2019-06-11 20:39 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2019-06-12 0:45 ` Wanpeng Li
2019-06-12 16:15 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2019-06-11 12:17 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] KVM: LAPIC: lapic timer interrupt is injected by posted interrupt Wanpeng Li
2019-06-11 20:18 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2019-06-12 1:48 ` Wanpeng Li
2019-06-12 15:22 ` Radim Krčmář
2019-06-12 21:51 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2019-06-11 12:17 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] KVM: LAPIC: Ignore timer migration when lapic timer is injected by posted-interrupt Wanpeng Li
2019-06-11 12:17 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] KVM: LAPIC: add advance timer support to pi_inject_timer Wanpeng Li
2019-06-13 7:59 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] KVM: LAPIC: Implement Exitless Timer Maxim Levitsky
2019-06-13 8:25 ` Wanpeng Li
2019-06-13 9:49 ` Maxim Levitsky [this message]
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=e4f39694a809461702f3eaae1c12e89ba35976dc.camel@redhat.com \
--to=mlevitsk@redhat.com \
--cc=kernellwp@gmail.com \
--cc=kvm@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=pbonzini@redhat.com \
--cc=rkrcmar@redhat.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox
Powered by JetHome