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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Swapnil Sapkal <Swapnil.Sapkal@amd.com>,
	Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/1] sched: ttwu_queue_cond: perform queued wakeups across different L2 caches
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 12:09:30 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e52d3f53-97dc-2081-5124-5e13e29d2603@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtCavFCk+1cJe2=zFa7WfiX4XGMdc5AsA_2r4xqsk+4v7Q@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/17/23 12:01, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 at 17:34, Mathieu Desnoyers
> <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:
>>
>> Skipping queued wakeups for all logical CPUs sharing an LLC means that
>> on a 192 cores AMD EPYC 9654 96-Core Processor (over 2 sockets), groups
>> of 8 cores (16 hardware threads) end up grabbing runqueue locks of other
>> runqueues within the same group for each wakeup, causing contention on
>> the runqueue locks.
[...]
>>
>> -bool cpus_share_cache(int this_cpu, int that_cpu);
>> +bool cpus_share_cluster(int this_cpu, int that_cpu);   /* Share L2. */
>> +bool cpus_share_cache(int this_cpu, int that_cpu);     /* Share LLC. */
> 
> I think that Yicong is doing what you want with
> cpus_share_lowest_cache() which points to cluster when available or
> LLC otherwise
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220720081150.22167-1-yangyicong@hisilicon.com/t/#m0ab9fa0fe0c3779b9bbadcfbc1b643dce7cb7618
> 

AFAIU (please correct me if I'm wrong) my AMD EPYC machine has sockets 
consisting of 12 clusters, each cluster having its own L3 cache.

What I am trying to achieve here is really to implement "cpus_share_l2": 
I want this to match only when the cpus have a common L2 cache. L3 
appears to be a group which is either:

- too large (16 hw threads) or
- have a too high access latency.

I'm not certain which (or if both) of those reasons explain why
grouping by L2 is better here.

Thanks,

Mathieu

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
https://www.efficios.com


  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-17 16:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-17 15:35 Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-08-17 16:01 ` Vincent Guittot
2023-08-17 16:09   ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2023-08-17 16:14     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-08-17 16:37       ` Vincent Guittot
2023-08-18  6:39   ` K Prateek Nayak
2023-08-18 14:35     ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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