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From: Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@huawei.com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: <davem@davemloft.net>, <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	<huangdaode@hisilicon.com>, <xuwei5@hisilicon.com>,
	<liguozhu@hisilicon.com>, <Yisen.Zhuang@huawei.com>,
	<gabriele.paoloni@huawei.com>, <john.garry@huawei.com>,
	<linuxarm@huawei.com>, <salil.mehta@huawei.com>,
	<lipeng321@huawei.com>, <tremyfr@gmail.com>,
	<netdev@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH NET V5 2/2] net: hns: Use phy_driver to setup Phy loopback
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2017 17:14:11 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e53994a8-25df-a7dc-cbf0-cbc4063e734c@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170629135648.GD9244@lunn.ch>

Hi, Andrew

On 2017/6/29 21:56, Andrew Lunn wrote:
>>> You only call dev_close() if the device is running. What if somebody
>>> runs the self test on an interface when it has never been opened? It
>>> looks like you will call phy_resume(). But since it has never been
>>> suspended, you could be in trouble.
>> Here is what I can think of:
>> 1. when the mac driver is first loaded, the phy has a default state. suspended?
> 
> Nope. The PHY will only be suspended when you actually call
> phy_suspend.
> 
>> 2. If user runs the self test after using 'ifconfig ethX down', then I suppose
>> phy is already suspended.
> 
> Assuming the phy has at some point been up, after a down, it should be
> suspended.
> 
> The key thing here is, phy_resume() can only be called after a
> successful phy_suspend(). Those are the power management rules, and
> the expectations of the drivers. Doing a resume without first doing an
> explicit suspend is asking for bad things to happen.
> 
> You are having trouble because you are not using the API for what it
> was intended. Maybe you need to take a step back and look at the
> bigger picture of how self tests are being performed. Why do you need
> the dev_close()/dev_open()? Maybe
> netif_device_detach()/netif_device_attach() would be better?
> How do other drivers do self test?
> 
Basically, when doing a loopback test, we put a skb in the tx ring, and
see if we can receive it in the rx ring. And We can't find other functions
that meets our requirement, except dev_close()/dev_open.

netif_device_detach only stop the stack from sending packet, napi_disable is
needed to stop the stack from receiving packet.
And after phy loopback test, netif_device_attach does not bring back the link.
Is there a way to bring back the link?

We still need to resume the phy after 'ifconfig ethX down'. Also how can I
tell the difference between phy being suspended after 'ifconfig ethX down'
and phy being not suspended after mac driver is first loaded?

It seems that ixgbe_ethtool in mainline kernel also use netif_tx_disable,
napi_disable and other hardware specific method to setup self test.
But newest ixgbe_ethtool code in github also use dev_close to do self test.

Any idea?

Best Regard
Yunsheng Lin

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-30  9:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-26  2:10 [PATCH NET V5 0/2] Add loopback support in phy_driver and hns ethtool fix Lin Yun Sheng
2017-06-26  2:10 ` [PATCH NET V5 1/2] net: phy: Add phy loopback support in net phy framework Lin Yun Sheng
2017-06-26 13:43   ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-26 16:45   ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-26  2:10 ` [PATCH NET V5 2/2] net: hns: Use phy_driver to setup Phy loopback Lin Yun Sheng
2017-06-26 13:42   ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-27  3:25     ` Yunsheng Lin
2017-06-27 13:29       ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-28  0:59         ` Yunsheng Lin
2017-06-28 20:28           ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-29  2:35             ` Yunsheng Lin
2017-06-29 13:56               ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-30  9:14                 ` Yunsheng Lin [this message]
2017-06-30 13:39                   ` Andrew Lunn
2017-07-01 15:17                     ` Andrew Lunn
2017-07-03  9:57                       ` Yunsheng Lin

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