From: "David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <david@kernel.org>
To: David Wang <00107082@163.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: catalin.marinas@arm.com, lance.yang@linux.dev, b-padhi@ti.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Jan Polensky <japo@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: Linux 6.18-rc6
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2025 15:12:08 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e53cb624-f83d-4898-b3f3-b20b702cf00c@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1b2ab63f.a8c2.19a974009bc.Coremail.00107082@163.com>
On 18.11.25 14:55, David Wang wrote:
>
>
> At 2025-11-18 12:13:15, "David Wang" <00107082@163.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> At 2025-11-18 09:10:50, "Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 17 Nov 2025 at 11:17, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
>>> <david@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So, I briefly tried on x86 with KASAN and the one-liner. I was assuming
>>>> that KASAN would complain because we are clearing the page before doing
>>>> the kasan_unpoison_pages() (IOW, writing to a KASAN-poisoned page).
>>>>
>>>> It didn't trigger, and I assume it is because clear_highpage() on x86
>>>> will not be instrumented by KASAN (my theory).
>>>>
>>>> The comment in kernel_init_pages() indicates that s390x uses memset()
>>>> for that purpose and I would assume that that one would be instrumented.
>>>
>>> So I have thought about this some more, and I am not entirely happy
>>> about any of this, but I think the way forward is to
>>>
>>> (a) make tag_clear_highpage() just do multiple pages in one go (and
>>> rename it as tag_clear_highpage*s*() in the process)
>>>
>>> (b) make it have an actually return value to indicate whether it
>>> initialized things
>>>
>>> which means that the post_alloc_hook() code just becomes
>>>
>>> if (zero_tags)
>>> init = tag_clear_highpages(page, 1 << order);
>>>
>>> and then the generic fallback becomes just
>>>
>>> static inline bool tag_clear_highpages(struct page *page, int numpages)
>>> {
>>> return false;
>>> }
>>>
>>> which makes this all a complete no-op for architectures that don't do
>>> this memory tagging.
>>>
>>> And the one architecture that *does* do it - arm64 - actually
>>> simplifies too, because now instead of being called in a loop - and
>>> having that
>>>
>>> if (!system_supports_mte()) {
>>> clear_highpage(page);
>>> return;
>>> }
>>>
>>> in every iteration of the loop, it now just gets called *once*, and it
>>> instead just does
>>>
>>> if (!system_supports_mte())
>>> return false;
>>>
>>> and then it does the *clearing* in a loop instead.
>>>
>>> End result: that all looks much saner to me, and should avoid all the
>>> issues with KASAN (well, arm64 currently clearly depends on
>>> mte_zero_clear_page_tags() being assembly code that doesn't trigger
>>> KASAN anyway).
>>>
>>> But maybe it looks saner to me just because I've written that code now.
>>>
>>> Anyway, here's my suggested patch. I still prefer this over having
>>> more config variables and #ifdef's. I'd much rather have code that
>>> just does the right thing and becomes null and void when it's
>>> effecitlvely disabled by not having hardware support.
>>>
>>> Comments?
>>>
>>> This is all entirely untested, but I did build it on both x86-64 and
>>
>>> arm64. So it must be perfect. Right?
>>
>>
>> I tried this patch, my prometheus service crash with:
>> fatal error: acquireSudog: found s.elem != nil in cache
>> seems some memory is still not properly zeroed. (I guess)
>> But this time, my old go compiler works fine.
>
>
> Update: with this patch, my go programs still crash, It was just that
> the first time I test the patch, old go compiler happened to work. When I reboot, my
> go program start to crash again. The crash seems random, but on my system,
> go program crashes with *very* high probability.
>
> (And I applied the patch based on 6.18-rc6.)
Can you try with
init = !tag_clear_highpages(page, 1 << order);
instead of
init = tag_clear_highpages(page, 1 << order);
So when the function returns "false" (we did not clear), we will have to
initialize.
--
Cheers
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-18 14:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-16 22:42 Linus Torvalds
2025-11-17 8:20 ` David Wang
2025-11-17 10:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-17 12:56 ` David Wang
2025-11-17 13:30 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-17 13:45 ` David Wang
2025-11-17 14:08 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-17 15:28 ` David Wang
2025-11-17 16:59 ` Xi Ruoyao
2025-11-17 21:19 ` Joan Bruguera Micó
2025-11-17 17:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-17 17:53 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-17 17:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-17 18:24 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-17 19:17 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-18 1:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-18 4:13 ` David Wang
2025-11-18 13:55 ` David Wang
2025-11-18 14:12 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) [this message]
2025-11-18 14:33 ` David Wang
2025-11-18 14:44 ` Carlos Llamas
2025-11-18 14:51 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-18 14:53 ` Carlos Llamas
2025-11-18 15:09 ` David Wang
2025-11-18 7:28 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-18 16:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-19 15:42 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-11-18 3:59 ` Carlos Llamas
2025-11-17 16:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-17 18:13 ` Guenter Roeck
2025-11-18 17:23 ` Stephanie Gawroriski
2025-11-18 18:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-18 20:18 ` Stephanie Gawroriski
2025-11-19 9:08 ` Heikki Krogerus
2025-11-19 14:18 ` Stephanie Gawroriski
2025-11-19 15:04 ` Stephanie Gawroriski
2025-11-24 9:50 ` Heikki Krogerus
2025-11-26 16:01 ` Stephanie Gawroriski
2025-11-27 9:53 ` Heikki Krogerus
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