From: Balbir Singh <balbirs@nvidia.com>
To: "Mika Penttilä" <mpenttil@redhat.com>, linux-mm@kvack.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>,
Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] Migrate on fault for device pages
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 21:36:50 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e57cfe5e-2031-422f-9c50-f5a03a467cb3@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250814072045.3637192-1-mpenttil@redhat.com>
On 8/14/25 17:19, Mika Penttilä wrote:
> As of this writing, the way device page faulting and migration
> works is not optimal, if you want to do both fault handling
> and migration at once.
>
> Being able to migrate not present pages (or pages mapped with incorrect
> permissions, eg. COW) to the GPU requires doing either of the following
> sequences:
>
> 1. hmm_range_fault() - fault in non-present pages with correct
> permissions,etc.
> 2. migrate_vma_*() - migrate the pages
>
> Or:
>
> 1. migrate_vma_*() - migrate present pages
> 2. If non-present pages detected by migrate_vma_*():
> a) call hmm_range_fault() to fault pages in
> b) call migrate_vma_*() again to migrate now present pages
>
> The problem with the first sequence is that you always have to do two
> page walks even when most of the time the pages are present or zero page
> mappings so the common case takes a performance hit.
>
> The second sequence is better for the common case, but far worse if
> pages aren't present because now you have to walk the page tables three
> times (once to find the page is not present, once so hmm_range_fault()
> can find a non-present page to fault in and once again to setup the
> migration). It also tricky to code correctly.
>
> We should be able to walk the page table once, faulting
> pages in as required and replacing them with migration entries if
> requested.
>
The use case makes sense to me, but isn't the sequence always going
to be racy, by the time the pages are faulted in, there could be
others that have been marked non-present or do you intend to lock
all pages during this operation?
Balbir
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-15 11:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-14 7:19 Mika Penttilä
2025-08-14 7:19 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] mm: use current as mmu notifier's owner Mika Penttilä
2025-08-14 12:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-14 12:53 ` Mika Penttilä
2025-08-14 13:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-14 13:20 ` Mika Penttilä
2025-08-14 14:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-14 17:00 ` Mika Penttilä
2025-08-14 17:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-14 17:45 ` Mika Penttilä
2025-08-15 5:23 ` Alistair Popple
2025-08-15 7:11 ` Mika Penttilä
2025-08-19 4:27 ` Balbir Singh
2025-08-19 4:33 ` Mika Penttilä
2025-08-14 7:19 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] mm: unified fault and migrate device page paths Mika Penttilä
2025-08-21 4:30 ` Balbir Singh
2025-08-21 5:10 ` Mika Penttilä
2025-08-22 5:02 ` Alistair Popple
2025-08-14 7:19 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] mm:/migrate_device.c: remove migrate_vma_collect_*() functions Mika Penttilä
2025-08-14 7:19 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] mm: add new testcase for the migrate on fault case Mika Penttilä
2025-08-15 11:36 ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2025-08-15 11:44 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] Migrate on fault for device pages Mika Penttilä
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