From: Dou Liyang <douly.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>,
Chao Fan <fanc.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com>, <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <x86@kernel.org>, <hpa@zytor.com>,
<tglx@linutronix.de>, <mingo@redhat.com>,
<yasu.isimatu@gmail.com>, <indou.takao@jp.fujitsu.com>,
<lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 0/5] x86/KASLR: Add parameter kaslr_boot_mem=nn[KMG]@ss[KMG]
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 09:47:04 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e62ca2ec-a563-2f86-71f3-9eac698cf3ad@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180312105727.mzrtjvnyxgyz7jn7@gmail.com>
Hi Ingo, Kees, Baoquan and Chao
At 03/12/2018 06:57 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
[...]
> So there's apparently a mis-design here:
>
> - KASLR needs to be done very early on during bootup: - it's not realistic to
> expect KASLR to be done with a booted up kernel, because pointers to various
> KASLR-ed objects are already widely spread out in memory.
>
> - But for some unfathomable reason the memory hotplug attribute of memory
> regions is not part of the regular memory map but part of late-init ACPI data
> structures.
>
> The right solution would be _not_ to fudge the KASLR location, but to provide the
> memory hotplug information to early code, preferably via the primary memory map.
> KASLR can then make use of it and avoid those regions, just like it avoids other
> memory regions already.
>
> In addition to that hardware makers (including virtualized hardware) should also
> fix their systems to provide memory hotplug information to early code.
>
Yes, but before this, can we fix this problem by the following patch
which has been sent and reviewed by Kees before[1]. its solution is:
Extend movable_node option to restrict kernel to be randomized in
immovable nodes by adding a parameter. this parameter sets up
the boundaries between the home nodes and other nodes.
My reason is here:
- What we really want to solve is the KASLR breaks *physical Node
hotplug*, Keep the decompressed kernel in an immovable node is
enough.
- AFAICS, there are not too many systems where physical Node hotplug
actually works in practice, and there mush be one node called *home
node* which is immovable for storing basic information.
- the node in modern systems could have double-digit gigabytes memory,
It can completely satisfy the operation of KASLR.
So, Just restrict kernel to be randomized in the home node, and ignore
other nodes when kernel has the *movable_node* option in the command
line.
Thoughts? may I rebase and resend the patch?
[1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/8/3/401
Thanks,
dou
prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-03-29 1:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-02-28 10:51 Chao Fan
2018-02-28 10:51 ` [PATCH v9 1/5] x86/KASLR: Add kaslr_boot_mem=nn[KMG]@ss[KMG] Chao Fan
2018-02-28 10:51 ` [PATCH v9 2/5] x86/KASLR: Handle the memory regions specified in kaslr_boot_mem Chao Fan
2018-02-28 10:51 ` [PATCH v9 3/5] x86/KASLR: Give a warning if movable_node specified without kaslr_boot_mem= Chao Fan
2018-02-28 10:51 ` [PATCH v9 4/5] x86/KASLR: Skip memory mirror handling if movable_node specified Chao Fan
2018-02-28 10:51 ` [PATCH v9 5/5] document: add document for kaslr_boot_mem Chao Fan
2018-03-12 9:35 ` [PATCH v9 0/5] x86/KASLR: Add parameter kaslr_boot_mem=nn[KMG]@ss[KMG] Ingo Molnar
2018-03-12 10:10 ` Baoquan He
2018-03-12 10:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-03-12 12:04 ` Chao Fan
2018-03-13 14:02 ` Baoquan He
2018-03-19 7:24 ` Baoquan He
2018-03-19 8:17 ` Chao Fan
2018-03-29 1:47 ` Dou Liyang [this message]
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