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From: Srinivas Kandagatla <srinivas.kandagatla@linaro.org>
To: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>,
	broonie@kernel.org
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, ckeepax@opensource.cirrus.com,
	tiwai@suse.com, lgirdwood@gmail.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, vkoul@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/11] ASoC: qdsp6-dai: add gapless support
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 16:23:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e6d10009-d01e-d506-1aa3-a915ef42a693@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cf9b2d33-9b63-f3d2-2e51-a88c528dad53@linux.intel.com>



On 08/07/2020 14:32, Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
> 
>>>> Add support to gapless playback by implementing metadata,
>>>> next_track, drain and partial drain support.
>>>>
>>>> Gapless on Q6ASM is implemented by opening 2 streams in a single asm 
>>>> stream
>>>
>>> What does 'in a single asm stream' means?
>>
>>
>> So in QDSP6 ASM (Audio Stream Manager) terminology we have something 
>> called "asm session" for each ASoC FE DAI, Each asm session can be 
>> connected with multiple streams (upto 8 I think). However there will 
>> be only one active stream at anytime. Also there only single data 
>> buffer associated with each asm session.
>>
>> For Gapless usecase, we can keep two streams open for one asm-session, 
>> allowing us to fill in data on second stream while first stream is 
>> playing.
> 
> Ah, that's interesting, thanks for the details. So you have one DMA 
> transfer and the data from the previous and next track are provided in 
> consecutive bytes in a ring buffer, but at the DSP level you have a 
> switch that will feed data for the previous and next tracks into 
> different decoders, yes?

Yes, that's true, we can drain and stop first stream and start next 
stream which will do the switch!

> 
> If that is the case, indeed the extension you suggested earlier to 
> change the profile is valid. You could even change the format I guess.
> 

Exactly, we did test this patchset along with the extension suggested!


> To avoid confusion I believe the capabilities would need to be extended 
> so that applications know that gapless playback is supported across 
> unrelated profiles/formats. The point is that you don't want a 
> traditional implementation to use a capability that isn't supported in 
> hardware or will lead to audio issues.
>  >>>> and toggling them on next track.
>>>
>>> It really seems to me that you have two streams at the lowest level, 
>>> along with the knowledge of how many samples to remove/insert and 
>>> hence could do a much better job - including gapless support between 
>>> unrelated profiles and cross-fading - without the partial drain and 
>>> next_track mechanism that was defined assuming a single stream/profile.
>> At the end of the day its a single session with one data buffer but 
>> with multiple streams.
>>
>> Achieving cross fade should be easy with this design.
> 
> looks like it indeed.
> 
>> We need those hooks for partial drain and next track to allow us to 
>> switch between streams and pass silence information to respective 
>> stream ids.
> 
> right, but the key point is 'switch between streams'. That means a more 
> complex/capable implementation that should be advertised as such to 
> applications. This is not the default behavior assumed initially: to 
> allow for minimal implementations in memory-constrained devices, we 
> assumed gapless was supported with a single decoder.
> 
> Maybe the right way to do this is extend the snd_compr_caps structure:
> 
> /**
>   * struct snd_compr_caps - caps descriptor
>   * @codecs: pointer to array of codecs
>   * @direction: direction supported. Of type snd_compr_direction
>   * @min_fragment_size: minimum fragment supported by DSP
>   * @max_fragment_size: maximum fragment supported by DSP
>   * @min_fragments: min fragments supported by DSP
>   * @max_fragments: max fragments supported by DSP
>   * @num_codecs: number of codecs supported
>   * @reserved: reserved field
>   */
> struct snd_compr_caps {
>      __u32 num_codecs;
>      __u32 direction;
>      __u32 min_fragment_size;
>      __u32 max_fragment_size;
>      __u32 min_fragments;
>      __u32 max_fragments;
>      __u32 codecs[MAX_NUM_CODECS];
>      __u32 reserved[11];
> } __attribute__((packed, aligned(4)));
> 
> 
> and use a reserved field to provide info on capabilities, and filter the 
> set_codec_params() addition based this capability - i.e. return -ENOTSUP 
> in 'traditional' implementations based on a single 'stream'/decoder 
> instance.
Sounds good!
I will give it a go and see how it ends up!


--srini


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-07-08 15:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-07 16:36 [PATCH 00/11] ASoC: qdsp6: add gapless compressed audio support Srinivas Kandagatla
2020-07-07 16:36 ` [PATCH 01/11] ASoC: q6asm: add command opcode to timeout error report Srinivas Kandagatla
2020-07-07 16:36 ` [PATCH 02/11] ASoC: q6asm: rename misleading session id variable Srinivas Kandagatla
2020-07-07 16:36 ` [PATCH 03/11] ASoC: q6asm: make commands specific to streams Srinivas Kandagatla
2020-07-07 16:52   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-07-08  9:44     ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2020-07-08 13:13       ` Mark Brown
2020-07-08 15:26         ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2020-07-07 16:36 ` [PATCH 04/11] ASoC: q6asm: use flags directly from asm-dai Srinivas Kandagatla
2020-07-07 16:36 ` [PATCH 05/11] ASoC: q6asm: add length to write command token Srinivas Kandagatla
2020-07-07 16:36 ` [PATCH 06/11] ASoC: q6asm: add support to remove intial and trailing silence Srinivas Kandagatla
2020-07-07 16:55   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-07-08  9:44     ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2020-07-07 16:36 ` [PATCH 07/11] ASoC: q6asm: add support to gapless flag in asm open Srinivas Kandagatla
2020-07-07 16:57   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-07-08  9:44     ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2020-07-07 16:36 ` [PATCH 08/11] ASoC: q6asm-dai: add next track metadata support Srinivas Kandagatla
2020-07-07 16:36 ` [PATCH 09/11] ASoC: qdsp6: use dev_err instead of pr_err Srinivas Kandagatla
2020-07-07 16:36 ` [PATCH 10/11] ASoC: qdsp6-dai: add gapless support Srinivas Kandagatla
2020-07-07 17:07   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-07-08  9:44     ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2020-07-08 13:32       ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-07-08 13:42         ` Mark Brown
2020-07-08 15:23         ` Srinivas Kandagatla [this message]
2020-07-08 16:58           ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-07-07 16:36 ` [PATCH 11/11] ASoC: q6asm-dai: add support to copy callback Srinivas Kandagatla
2020-07-08 13:32 ` [PATCH 00/11] ASoC: qdsp6: add gapless compressed audio support Mark Brown
2020-07-08 15:24   ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2020-07-08 16:59 ` Mark Brown

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