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From: "Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>
To: "Reshetova, Elena" <elena.reshetova@intel.com>,
	"Hansen, Dave" <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: "seanjc@google.com" <seanjc@google.com>,
	"linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org" <linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Scarlata, Vincent R" <vincent.r.scarlata@intel.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"jarkko@kernel.org" <jarkko@kernel.org>,
	"Annapurve, Vishal" <vannapurve@google.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Mallick, Asit K" <asit.k.mallick@intel.com>,
	"Aktas, Erdem" <erdemaktas@google.com>,
	"Cai, Chong" <chongc@google.com>,
	"Bondarevska, Nataliia" <bondarn@google.com>,
	"mingo@kernel.org" <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"Raynor, Scott" <scott.raynor@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 6/6] x86/sgx: Enable automatic SVN updates for SGX enclaves
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2025 21:43:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e6ff5068a4e5b0e3463ed20657772f476eaaf070.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7a9e68954b23418fab09edd64b47dc8056f7f8e8.camel@intel.com>

On Thu, 2025-07-24 at 21:14 +0000, Huang, Kai wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Attempt to execute ENCLS[EUPDATESVN] every time the first file descriptor
> > > > is obtained via sgx_(vepc_)open(). In the most common case the microcode
> > > > SVN is already up-to-date, and the operation succeeds without updating SVN.
> > > 
> > > (Sorry I forgot to say this in the previous versions):
> > > 
> > > If I read the pseudo code correctly, when the SVN is already up-to-date,
> > > the EUPDATESVN doesn't update SVN but it re-generates crypto assets
> > > anyway.
> > > 
> > > This is no harm per the pseudo code, since the "crypto assets" is actually
> > > the CR_BASE_KEY which is only used by EWB/ELDU flow per the SDM.
> > > 
> > > In other words, it doesn't impact other enclave visible keys (those from
> > > EGETKEY) such as sealing key.
> > > 
> > > I think this is important.  Because if enclave visible keys such as
> > > sealing key are lost on EUPDATESVN when SVN is already up-to-date (which
> > > is the most common case), it will bring significant visible impact to
> > > enclave.  E.g., one enclave could find its secret encrypted by sealing key
> > > could never be retrieved after it restarts.
> > > 
> > > Assuming I didn't miss anything, can we also mention this in the
> > > changelog?
> > 
> > Yes, you are right, anything like above behaviour would be a nightmare
> > in practice. So would smth like this work as an additional text:
> > 
> > "Note that in cases when SVN is already up-to-date and EUPDATESVN
> > is executed, it does not affect enclaves' visible keys obtained via EGETKEY
> > instruction."
> > 
> > ?
> > 
> 
> Yes works for me.  Thanks.

Side topic, just out of curiosity, do you know why Intel decided to re-
generate CR_BASE_KEY even SVN is found to be up-to-date?

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-24 21:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-24  8:02 [PATCH v9 0/6] " Elena Reshetova
2025-07-24  8:02 ` [PATCH v9 1/6] x86/sgx: Convert sgx_(vepc_)open to __sgx_(vepc_)open Elena Reshetova
2025-07-24  8:02 ` [PATCH v9 2/6] x86/sgx: Introduce a counter to count the sgx_(vepc_)open() Elena Reshetova
2025-07-24 10:24   ` Huang, Kai
2025-07-24 12:33     ` Reshetova, Elena
2025-07-24  8:02 ` [PATCH v9 3/6] x86/cpufeatures: Add X86_FEATURE_SGX_EUPDATESVN feature flag Elena Reshetova
2025-07-24  8:02 ` [PATCH v9 4/6] x86/sgx: Define error codes for use by ENCLS[EUPDATESVN] Elena Reshetova
2025-07-24  8:02 ` [PATCH v9 5/6] x86/sgx: Implement ENCLS[EUPDATESVN] Elena Reshetova
2025-07-24  8:02 ` [PATCH v9 6/6] x86/sgx: Enable automatic SVN updates for SGX enclaves Elena Reshetova
2025-07-24 10:18   ` Huang, Kai
2025-07-24 12:40     ` Reshetova, Elena
2025-07-24 11:12   ` Huang, Kai
2025-07-24 12:47     ` Reshetova, Elena
2025-07-24 21:14       ` Huang, Kai
2025-07-24 21:43         ` Huang, Kai [this message]
2025-07-28 15:45           ` Reshetova, Elena

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