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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Lars Marowsky-Bree <lmb@suse.de>
Cc: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
	jens.axboe@oracle.com, neilb@suse.de, hch@infradead.org,
	James.Bottomley@suse.de, lars.ellenberg@linbit.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, drbd-dev@lists.linbit.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, bart.vanassche@gmail.com,
	davej@redhat.com, gregkh@suse.de, kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com,
	kyle@moffetthome.net, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	nab@linux-iscsi.org, knikanth@suse.de,
	philipp.reisner@linbit.com, sam@ravnborg.org
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] DRBD for 2.6.32
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 16:56:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e9c3a7c20909191656p625ccfa4pcef94cbe8a232bae@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090919220232.GB31849@suse.de>

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Lars Marowsky-Bree <lmb@suse.de> wrote:
> On 2009-09-19T14:14:30, FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp> wrote:
>
>> I guess that Christoph is worry about adding another user interface
>> for kinda device management; once we merge this, we can't fix it (for
>> the raid unification).
>
> Why can't it be fixed?
>
> Either
>
> a) there's going to be a transition period during which the "old"
> interface is supported but depreciated and scheduled to be removed (all
> driving the new unified same back-end),
>
> or b) there's going to be a new kernel which requires new user-space
> tools sharp.
>
> In either case, dm/md are affected by this, so a third interface doesn't
> really make much difference. The refactoring needs to happen in the
> back-end anyway, and that actually becomes easier when all concurrent
> implementations are present and can be reworked at the same time.

It's actually four "raid" implementations in the kernel if you count
the multiple-disk functionality of btrfs.  The precedent is already
set for merging new multiple-disk management interfaces.

Neil has come the closest to actually trying to start (i.e. code) the
unification effort [1] and that was for the relatively straightforward
case of mapping the dm-raid5 backend to md-raid5... no uptake to date.
 There are no strictly equivalent drbd-backends in the kernel
presently, so leaving this out of tree is a net-loss for mainline.

--
Dan

[1]: http://marc.info/?l=dm-devel&m=124567352518676&w=2

  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-19 23:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-15 14:45 Philipp Reisner
2009-09-15 23:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-16  8:33   ` Philipp Reisner
2009-09-17  8:12   ` Lars Ellenberg
2009-09-17 16:02     ` James Bottomley
2009-09-17 16:11       ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-18  3:32         ` Neil Brown
2009-09-18 20:08           ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-19  5:14             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-09-19 22:02               ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2009-09-19 23:56                 ` Dan Williams [this message]
2009-09-21 13:39                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-09-21 14:43                   ` Lars Ellenberg
2009-09-21 14:52                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-21 16:53                       ` Lars Ellenberg
2009-09-21 22:27                         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-09-22  0:51                           ` Kyle Moffett
2009-09-23 11:27                             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-09-23 11:57                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-23 14:01                               ` Kyle Moffett
2009-09-23 23:21                                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-09-22  6:20                           ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2009-09-23 11:36                             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-09-23 23:06                               ` Neil Brown
2009-09-23 23:37                                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-09-25  5:27                                   ` Neil Brown
2009-09-25  9:59                                     ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2009-09-21 14:55                     ` [Drbd-dev] " Lars Ellenberg
2009-09-22  5:37                     ` Heinz Mauelshagen
2009-09-17  8:50   ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2009-09-16  0:46 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-09-16  9:19   ` Philipp Reisner
2009-09-17 18:52 devzero
2009-09-23 19:10 devzero

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