From: Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@Oracle.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Subject: RE: Ping? RE: [GIT PULL] mm/vfs/fs:cleancache for 2.6.37 merge window
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 08:42:26 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <eaa7e0c3-ab9b-45e7-b396-7c59338e2ae2@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101030120632.40345d0d.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 11:37:47 -0700 (PDT) Dan Magenheimer
> <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com> wrote:
>
> > Ping? I hope you are still considering this. If not or if
> > there are any questions I can answer, please let me know.
>
> What's happened here is that the patchset has gone through its
> iterations and a few people have commented and then after a while,
> nobody had anything to say about the code so nobody said anything more.
>
> But silence doesn't mean acceptance - it just means that nobody had
> anything to say.
>
> I think I looked at the earlier iterations, tried to understand the
> point behind it all, made a few code suggestions and eventually tuned
> out. At that time (and hence at this time) I just cannot explain to
> myself why we would want to merge this code.
>
> All new code is a cost/benefit decision. The costs are pretty well
> known: larger codebase, more code for us and our "customers" to
> maintain and support, etc. That the code pokes around in vfs and
> various filesystems does increase those costs a little.
>
> But the extent of the benefits to our users aren't obvious to me. The
> coe is still xen-specific, I believe? If so, that immediately reduces
> the benefit side by a large amount simply because of the reduced
> audience.
>
> We did spend some time trying to get this wired up to zram so that the
> feature would be potentially useful to *all* users, thereby setting the
> usefulness multiplier back to 1.0. But I don't recall that anything
> came of this?
>
> I also don't know how useful the code is to its intended
> micro-audience: xen users!
>
> So can we please revisit all this from the top level? Jeremy, your
> input would be valuable. Christoph, I recall that you had technical
> objections - can you please repeat those?
>
> It's the best I can do to kick this along, sorry.
Hi Andrew (and Linus) --
Time to re-open this conversation (for 2.6.39 merge window)?
Assuming GregKH approves kztmem as a staging driver, it should
now set "the usefulness multiplier back to 1.0". Kztmem
is a superset of Nitin's zcache and zram but more dynamic
and is completely independent of Xen and virtualization.
See kztmem overview: https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/1/18/170
And I believe Christoph's technical objections have all been
resolved. See longer version of previous reply here:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2010/10/30/226
So please reconsider cleancache!
Thanks,
Dan
P.S. Christoph, apologies, I see I didn't have you on the dist list
for the kztmem patch.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-01-19 16:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-10-21 15:21 Dan Magenheimer
2010-10-21 15:36 ` Lin Ming
2010-10-21 15:57 ` gene heskett
2010-10-27 18:37 ` Ping? " Dan Magenheimer
2010-10-30 19:06 ` Andrew Morton
2010-10-30 20:49 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-10-31 2:19 ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-01-19 16:42 ` Dan Magenheimer [this message]
2011-02-17 20:14 ` PING? cleancache for 2.6.39 window? Dan Magenheimer
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