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From: Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Maciej Fijalkowski <maciej.fijalkowski@intel.com>,
	Larysa Zaremba <larysa.zaremba@intel.com>,
	Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@huawei.com>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexanderduyck@fb.com>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
	"Ilias Apalodimas" <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
	<netdev@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC net-next 0/4] net: page_pool: a couple assorted optimizations
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2023 14:31:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <eb3ef477-cd42-7796-7297-ef10e74c994c@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230703115734.6ee8f658@kernel.org>

From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2023 11:57:34 -0700

> On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 15:50:55 +0200 Alexander Lobakin wrote:
>>> The reason I did not do that is that I wasn't sure if there is no
>>> weird (netcons?) case where skb gets freed from an IRQ :(  
>>
>> Shouldn't they use dev_kfree_skb_any() or _irq()? Usage of plain
>> kfree_skb() is not allowed in the TH :s
> 
> I haven't looked at the code so I could be lying but I thought that 
> the only thing that can't run in hard IRQ context is the destructor,
> so if the caller knows there's no destructor they can free the skb.
> 
> I'd ask you the inverse question. If the main use case is skb xdp
> (which eh, uh, okay..) then why not make it use napi_consume_skb()?

Remember about Wi-Fi, DSA, and other poor citizens with no native XDP! :D
That was mostly a joke, but I thought of this, too. At the end my
thought was "let's try making it cover more usecases" and I found this
approach. I'm not saying it's optimal or even much needed, that's why I
sent it to discuss basically.

(e.g. I wanted to try speed up xdp_return_frame{,_bulk}() using it)

> I don't think skb XDP can run in hard IRQ context, can it?

skb XDP can't happen in the TH and I think we could assume it's safe to
use napi_consume_skb() there (with a fake non-zero budget :p).

> 
>> Anyway, if the flag really makes no sense, I can replace it with
>> in_softirq(), it's my hobby to break weird drivers :D

Thanks,
Olek

      reply	other threads:[~2023-07-05 12:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-29 15:23 Alexander Lobakin
2023-06-29 15:23 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 1/4] net: skbuff: don't include <net/page_pool.h> to <linux/skbuff.h> Alexander Lobakin
2023-06-29 16:55   ` Alexander H Duyck
2023-06-30 12:39     ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-06-30 15:11       ` Alexander Duyck
2023-06-30 16:05         ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-06-29 15:23 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 2/4] net: page_pool: avoid calling no-op externals when possible Alexander Lobakin
2023-06-29 16:45   ` Alexander H Duyck
2023-06-30 12:29     ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-06-30 14:44       ` Alexander Duyck
2023-06-30 15:34         ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-06-30 18:28           ` Alexander Duyck
2023-07-03 13:38             ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-03 20:32           ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-05 14:41             ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-06-29 15:23 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 3/4] net: add flag to indicate NAPI/GRO is running right now Alexander Lobakin
2023-06-29 15:23 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 4/4] net: skbuff: always recycle PP pages directly when inside a NAPI loop Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-02  0:01 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 0/4] net: page_pool: a couple assorted optimizations Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-03 13:50   ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-03 18:57     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-05 12:31       ` Alexander Lobakin [this message]

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