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From: Pavel Tikhomirov <ptikhomirov@virtuozzo.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Andrey Vagin <avagin@openvz.org>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	syzbot+5c54bd3eb218bb595aa9@syzkaller.appspotmail.com,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	Sebastian Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Mikhalitsyn <aleksandr.mikhalitsyn@canonical.com>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>
Subject: Re: [RFD] posix-timers: CRIU woes
Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 22:54:33 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ece41415-868e-9068-c8ff-47f0f1b46997@virtuozzo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ilczc7d9.ffs@tglx>



On 11.05.2023 21:42, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Thu, May 11 2023 at 17:52, Pavel Tikhomirov wrote:
>> On 11.05.2023 17:36, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>> On Thu, May 11 2023 at 11:17, Pavel Tikhomirov wrote:
>>>> On 10.05.2023 16:16, Andrey Vagin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So because of that half thought out user space ABI we are now up the
>>>>>> regression creek without a paddle, unless CRIU can accomodate to a
>>>>>> different restore mechanism to lift this restriction from the kernel.
>>>>>>
>>>>> If you give us a new API to create timers with specified id-s, we will
>>>>> figure out how to live with it. It isn't good to ask users to update
>>>>> CRIU to work on new kernels, but here are reasons and event improvements
>>>>> for CRIU, so I think it's worth it.
>>>>
>>>> I agree, any API to create timers with specified id-s would work for new
>>>> CRIU versions.
>>>
>>> The real question is whether this will cause any upheaval when a new
>>> kernel meets a non-updated CRIU stack.
>>
>> Creation of posix timer would hang forever in this loop
>> https://github.com/checkpoint-restore/criu/blob/33dd66c6fc93c47213aaa0447a94d97ba1fa56ba/criu/pie/restorer.c#L1185
>> if old criu is run on new kernel (without consecutive id allocation) AFAICS.
> 
> Yes, because that "sanity" check
> 
>       if ((long)next_id > args->posix_timers[i].spt.it_id)
> 
> which tries to establish whether the kernel provides timer IDs in strict
> increasing order does not work for that case.

Yes, this check is not perfect, but it does at least something: It 
detects that posix timer creation missed needed id (if you start from 0 
and increase by 1 each time you can not reach number > N before reaching 
N).

> 
> It "works" to detect the IDR case on older kernels by chance, but not
> under all circumstances. Assume the following case:
> 
>        Global IDR has a free slot at index 1
> 
>        Restore tries to create a timer for index 2
> 
> That will also loop forever, unless some other process creates a timer
> and occupies the free slot at index 1, right?

Yes on old-old kernel, where there were no ids increasing on 
create/delete, CRIU is broken, but CRIU does not support kernels earlier 
than 3.11 (https://criu.org/Check_the_kernel#Basic) so probably we are fine.

git describe --contains 5ed67f05f66c
v3.10-rc1~171^2~9

> 
> So this needs a fix anyway, which should be done so that the new kernel
> case is at least properly detected.
> 
> But even then there is still the problem of "it worked before I upgraded
> the kernel".
> 
> IOW, we are still up a creek without a paddle, unless you would be
> willing to utilize the existing CRIU bug to distribute the 'deal with
> new kernel' mechanics as a bug bounty :) >
> Fix for the loop termination below.

It fixes the loop for new kernel, I agree.

> 
> Thanks,
> 
>          tglx
> ---
>   criu/pie/restorer.c |   24 +++++++++++++-----------
>   1 file changed, 13 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
> 
> --- a/criu/pie/restorer.c
> +++ b/criu/pie/restorer.c
> @@ -1169,10 +1169,10 @@ static int timerfd_arm(struct task_resto
>   static int create_posix_timers(struct task_restore_args *args)
>   {
>   	int ret, i;
> -	kernel_timer_t next_id;
> +	kernel_timer_t next_id, timer_id;
>   	struct sigevent sev;
>   
> -	for (i = 0; i < args->posix_timers_n; i++) {
> +	for (i = 0, next_id = 0; i < args->posix_timers_n; i++) {
>   		sev.sigev_notify = args->posix_timers[i].spt.it_sigev_notify;
>   		sev.sigev_signo = args->posix_timers[i].spt.si_signo;
>   #ifdef __GLIBC__
> @@ -1183,25 +1183,27 @@ static int create_posix_timers(struct ta
>   		sev.sigev_value.sival_ptr = args->posix_timers[i].spt.sival_ptr;
>   
>   		while (1) {
> -			ret = sys_timer_create(args->posix_timers[i].spt.clock_id, &sev, &next_id);
> +			ret = sys_timer_create(args->posix_timers[i].spt.clock_id, &sev, &timer_id);
>   			if (ret < 0) {
>   				pr_err("Can't create posix timer - %d\n", i);
>   				return ret;
>   			}
>   
> -			if (next_id == args->posix_timers[i].spt.it_id)
> +			if (timer_id != next_id) {
> +				pr_err("Can't create timers, kernel don't give them consequently\n");
> +				return -1;
> +			}
> +
> +			next_id++;
> +
> +			if (timer_id == args->posix_timers[i].spt.it_id)
>   				break;
>   
> -			ret = sys_timer_delete(next_id);
> +			ret = sys_timer_delete(timer_id);
>   			if (ret < 0) {
> -				pr_err("Can't remove temporaty posix timer 0x%x\n", next_id);
> +				pr_err("Can't remove temporaty posix timer 0x%x\n", timer_id);
>   				return ret;
>   			}
> -
> -			if ((long)next_id > args->posix_timers[i].spt.it_id) {
> -				pr_err("Can't create timers, kernel don't give them consequently\n");
> -				return -1;
> -			}
>   		}
>   	}
>   
> 
> 

-- 
Best regards, Tikhomirov Pavel
Senior Software Developer, Virtuozzo.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-11 14:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-25 18:48 [patch 00/20] posix-timers: Fixes and cleanups Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-25 18:48 ` [patch 01/20] posix-timers: Prevent RT livelock in itimer_delete() Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-04 17:06   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-05-04 18:20     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-05  7:57       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-01 19:00         ` [patch v2 " Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-01 20:16           ` [patch v2a " Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-05 10:59             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-06-05 15:08             ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-18 20:50             ` tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-25 18:48 ` [patch 02/20] posix-timers: Ensure timer ID search-loop limit is valid Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-05 14:50   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-05-05 22:58     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-05 23:36       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-08 21:57         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-09  9:30           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-09 12:50             ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-09 21:42               ` [RFD] posix-timers: CRIU woes Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-10  4:36                 ` Pavel Tikhomirov
2023-05-10  8:30                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-11  4:12                     ` Pavel Tikhomirov
2023-05-11  7:56                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-11  9:32                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-11 10:13                   ` David Laight
2023-05-10  8:16                 ` Andrey Vagin
2023-05-11  3:17                   ` Pavel Tikhomirov
2023-05-11  9:36                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-11  9:52                       ` Pavel Tikhomirov
2023-05-11 13:42                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-11 14:54                           ` Pavel Tikhomirov [this message]
2023-05-11 15:25                           ` Pavel Tikhomirov
2023-05-12  1:21                       ` Andrey Vagin
2023-05-31 17:38                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-11  7:49                   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2023-05-10  0:42               ` [patch 02/20] posix-timers: Ensure timer ID search-loop limit is valid Andrey Vagin
2023-05-09  9:42         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-05-09 12:04           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-09 12:38           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-09 14:18             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-06-01 18:58               ` [patch v2 " Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-05 14:17                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-06-05 15:08                 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-18 20:50                 ` tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 03/20] posix-timers: Clarify timer_wait_running() comment Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-09  9:50   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-06-05 15:08   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-18 20:50   ` tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 04/20] posix-timers: Cleanup comments about timer ID tracking Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-09  9:58   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-06-05 15:08   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-18 20:50   ` tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 05/20] posix-timers: Add comments about timer lookup Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-09 10:58   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-06-05 15:08   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-18 20:50   ` tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 06/20] posix-timers: Annotate concurrent access to k_itimer::it_signal Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-09 11:04   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-06-05 15:08   ` [tip: timers/core] posix-timers: Annotate concurrent access to k_itimer:: It_signal tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-18 20:50   ` tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 07/20] posix-timers: Set k_itimer::it_signal to NULL on exit() Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-01 10:09   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-06-05 15:08   ` [tip: timers/core] posix-timers: Set k_itimer:: It_signal " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-18 20:50   ` tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 08/20] posix-timers: Remove pointless irqsafe from hash_lock Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-01 10:12   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-06-05 15:08   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-18 20:50   ` tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 09/20] posix-timers: Split release_posix_timers() Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-01 10:25   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-06-05 15:08   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-18 20:50   ` tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 10/20] posix-timers: Document sys_clock_getres() correctly Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-01 10:44   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-06-05 15:08   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 11/20] posix-timers: Document common_clock_get() correctly Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-01 11:00   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-06-05 15:08   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 12/20] posix-timers: Document sys_clock_getoverrun() Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-01 11:06   ` Frederic Weisbecker
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 13/20] posix-timers: Document sys_clock_settime() permissions in place Thomas Gleixner
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 14/20] posix-timers: Document nanosleep() details Thomas Gleixner
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 15/20] posix-timers: Add proper comments in do_timer_create() Thomas Gleixner
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 16/20] posix-timers: Comment SIGEV_THREAD_ID properly Thomas Gleixner
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 17/20] posix-timers: Clarify posix_timer_rearm() comment Thomas Gleixner
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 18/20] posix-timers: Clarify posix_timer_fn() comments Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-01 13:21   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-06-01 18:43     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-01 19:07     ` Thomas Gleixner
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 19/20] posix-timers: Remove pointless comments Thomas Gleixner
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 20/20] posix-timers: Polish coding style in a few places Thomas Gleixner
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