From: Matti Vaittinen <mazziesaccount@gmail.com>
To: "Rob Herring (Arm)" <robh@kernel.org>,
Matti Vaittinen <matti.vaittinen@linux.dev>
Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Sebastian Reichel <sre@kernel.org>,
Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@bgdev.pl>,
Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>,
linux-clk@vger.kernel.org,
Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
Matti Vaittinen <matti.vaittinen@fi.rohmeurope.com>,
linux-leds@vger.kernel.org, Pavel Machek <pavel@kernel.org>,
Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
Andreas Kemnade <andreas@kemnade.info>,
Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-rtc@vger.kernel.org,
Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>, Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 04/16] dt-bindings: power: supply: BD72720 managed battery
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2025 11:04:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ee36d7d1-ef47-4a35-9aff-baa6ed32105a@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <176303119683.3716572.16868393928566655866.robh@kernel.org>
On 13/11/2025 12:53, Rob Herring (Arm) wrote:
>
> On Thu, 13 Nov 2025 10:52:19 +0200, Matti Vaittinen wrote:
>> From: Matti Vaittinen <mazziesaccount@gmail.com>
>>
>> The BD72720 PMIC has a battery charger + coulomb counter block. These
>> can be used to manage charging of a lithium-ion battery and to do fuel
>> gauging.
>>
>> ROHM has developed a so called "zero-correction" -algorithm to improve
>> the fuel-gauging accuracy close to the point where battery is depleted.
>> This relies on battery specific "VDR" tables, which are measured from
>> the battery, and which describe the voltage drop rate. More thorough
>> explanation about the "zero correction" and "VDR" parameters is here:
>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/676253b9-ff69-7891-1f26-a8b5bb5a421b@fi.rohmeurope.com/
>>
>> Document the VDR zero-correction specific battery properties used by the
>> BD72720 and some other ROHM chargers.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Matti Vaittinen <mazziesaccount@gmail.com>
>> Reviewed-by: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
>>
>> ---
>> NOTE:
>> Linus' rb-tag holds only if there's no further comments from Rob.
>>
>> Revision history:
>> v3 =>:
>> - No changes
>>
>> v2 => v3:
>> - Constrain VDR threshold voltage to 48V
>> - Use standard '-bp' -suffix for the rohm,volt-drop-soc
>>
>> RFCv1 => v2:
>> - Add units to rohm,volt-drop-soc (tenths of %)
>> - Give real temperatures matching the VDR tables, instead of vague
>> 'high', 'normal', 'low', 'very low'. (Add table of temperatures and
>> use number matching the right temperature index in the VDR table name).
>> - Fix typoed 'algorithm' in commit message.
>>
>> The parameters are describing the battery voltage drop rates - so they
>> are properties of the battery, not the charger. Thus they do not belong
>> in the charger node.
>>
// snip
> My bot found errors running 'make dt_binding_check' on your patch:
>
> yamllint warnings/errors:
>
> dtschema/dtc warnings/errors:
> /builds/robherring/dt-review-ci/linux/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/power/supply/rohm,vdr-battery.example.dtb: battery (simple-battery): 'degrade-cycle-microamp-hours', 'rohm,volt-drop-0-microvolt', 'rohm,volt-drop-1-microvolt', 'rohm,volt-drop-2-microvolt', 'rohm,volt-drop-3-temp-microvolt', 'rohm,volt-drop-soc-bp', 'rohm,volt-drop-temperatures-millicelsius', 'rohm,voltage-vdr-thresh-microvolt' do not match any of the regexes: '^ocv-capacity-table-[0-9]+$', '^pinctrl-[0-9]+$'
> from schema $id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/power/supply/battery.yaml
>
Odd. I am pretty sure I didn't see this when I ran the make
dt_binding_check. Not 100% sure what happened there. I get this error
now though when including all the bindings to the check.
Do I get this right - these errors result from the properties used in
example not being included in the battery.yaml? So, this means that the
check is done based on the binding (battery.yaml) where the compatible
(simple-battery) is defined - not based on the properties which are
present in this file where the example resides, (and which references
the battery.yaml)?
...
Oh... Now that I wrote it I feel like an idiot.
This approach couldn't work for the validation, right? Let's assume I
had a VDR battery, and I added a static-battery -node for it. Running
the validation would pick the battery.yaml based on the compatible (just
as it does here), and be completely unaware of this vdr-battery.yaml. I
have no idea why I thought this would work. Probably because I only
thought this from the documentation POV.
So, as far as I understand, the only viable options are expanding the
existing battery.yaml with these properties (which I hoped to avoid, see
below)
>> The right place for them is the battery node, which is described by the
>> generic "battery.yaml". I was not comfortable with adding these
>> properties to the generic battery.yaml because they are:
>> - Meaningful only for those charger drivers which have the VDR
>> algorithm implemented. (And even though the algorithm is not
charger
>> specific, AFAICS, it is currently only used by some ROHM PMIC
>> drivers).
>> - Technique of measuring the VDR tables for a battery is not widely
>> known. AFAICS, only folks at ROHM are measuring those for some
>> customer products. We do have those tables available for some
of the
>> products though (Kobo?).
or, to add new compatible for the "vdr-battery".
AFAICS, adding new compatible would require us to wither duplicate the
used properties from battery.yaml here (as battery.yaml mandates the
"simple-battery" - compatible) - or to split the battery.yaml in two
files, one containing the generic properties, other containing the
"simple-battery" -compatible and referencing the generic one. Then the
"vdr-battery" could also reference the generic one.
Any suggestions for the next path to follow?
Oh, and sorry for asking to review something which is obviously not
working approach. I should've understood this from the beginning.
Yours,
-- Matti
---
Matti Vaittinen
Linux kernel developer at ROHM Semiconductors
Oulu Finland
~~ When things go utterly wrong vim users can always type :help! ~~
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-14 9:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-13 8:51 [PATCH v4 00/16] Support ROHM BD72720 PMIC Matti Vaittinen
2025-11-13 8:51 ` [PATCH v4 01/16] dt-bindings: regulator: ROHM BD72720 Matti Vaittinen
2025-11-13 10:53 ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2025-11-14 16:22 ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2025-11-13 8:51 ` [PATCH v4 02/16] dt-bindings: battery: Clarify trickle-charge Matti Vaittinen
2025-11-13 8:52 ` [PATCH v4 03/16] dt-bindings: battery: Add trickle-charge upper limit Matti Vaittinen
2025-11-13 8:52 ` [PATCH v4 04/16] dt-bindings: power: supply: BD72720 managed battery Matti Vaittinen
2025-11-13 10:53 ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2025-11-14 9:04 ` Matti Vaittinen [this message]
2025-11-14 16:39 ` Rob Herring
2025-11-14 17:40 ` Andreas Kemnade
2025-11-17 8:12 ` Matti Vaittinen
2025-11-17 15:23 ` Rob Herring
2025-11-17 15:48 ` Matti Vaittinen
2025-11-13 8:52 ` [PATCH v4 05/16] dt-bindings: mfd: ROHM BD72720 Matti Vaittinen
2025-11-15 11:31 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-11-18 23:06 ` Linus Walleij
2025-11-13 8:52 ` [PATCH v4 06/16] dt-bindings: leds: bd72720: Add BD72720 Matti Vaittinen
2025-11-13 8:53 ` [PATCH v4 07/16] mfd: rohm-bd71828: Use regmap_reg_range() Matti Vaittinen
2025-11-13 8:53 ` [PATCH v4 08/16] mfd: bd71828: Support ROHM BD72720 Matti Vaittinen
2025-11-13 8:54 ` [PATCH v4 09/16] regulator: bd71828: rename IC specific entities Matti Vaittinen
2025-11-13 8:54 ` [PATCH v4 10/16] regulator: bd71828: Support ROHM BD72720 Matti Vaittinen
2025-11-13 8:54 ` [PATCH v4 11/16] gpio: Support ROHM BD72720 gpios Matti Vaittinen
2025-11-13 8:55 ` [PATCH v4 12/16] clk: clk-bd718x7: Support BD72720 clk gate Matti Vaittinen
2025-11-14 3:53 ` Stephen Boyd
2025-11-13 8:55 ` [PATCH v4 13/16] rtc: bd70528: Support BD72720 rtc Matti Vaittinen
2025-11-13 8:55 ` [PATCH v4 14/16] power: supply: bd71828: Support wider register addresses Matti Vaittinen
2025-11-14 11:15 ` Andreas Kemnade
2025-11-14 13:22 ` Matti Vaittinen
2025-11-13 8:55 ` [PATCH v4 15/16] power: supply: bd71828-power: Support ROHM BD72720 Matti Vaittinen
2025-11-13 8:56 ` [PATCH v4 16/16] MAINTAINERS: Add ROHM BD72720 PMIC Matti Vaittinen
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