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From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Robin Murphy" <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"Jim Quinlan" <james.quinlan@broadcom.com>
Cc: "Linus Walleij" <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>,
	bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com, jim2101024@gmail.com,
	"Russell King" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	"Russell King" <rmk+kernel@armlinux.org.uk>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Sebastian Reichel" <sebastian.reichel@collabora.com>,
	"Mike Rapoport" <rppt@kernel.org>,
	"Eric DeVolder" <eric.devolder@oracle.com>,
	"Nathan Chancellor" <nathan@kernel.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	"Christophe Leroy" <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>,
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	"Claire Chang" <tientzu@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/1] ARM: Select DMA_DIRECT_REMAP to fix restricted DMA
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2023 12:20:56 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ee63dd71-77d3-4d98-9f7f-64c82ae8045c@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f0b03b73-cb01-f613-c4a6-da546ab47464@arm.com>

On Thu, Sep 28, 2023, at 11:33, Robin Murphy wrote:
> On 28/09/2023 4:16 pm, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>
>> It's unlikely but not impossible, as the driver has some
>> unusual constructs, using a lot of coherent mappings that
>> might otherwise be streaming mappings, and relying on
>> dma_sync_single_for_device(..., DMA_BIDIRECTIONAL) for other
>> data, but without the corresponding dma_sync_single_for_cpu().
>> If all the testing happens on x86, this might easily lead
>> to a bug that only shows up on non-coherent systems but
>> is never seen during testing.
>
> Probably the significant thing about restricted DMA is that it forces 
> all streaming DMA to be bounce-buffered. That should expose busted 
> synchronisation even more decisively than a lack of coherency. If 
> there's no IOMMU, then testing the driver in the absence of restricted 
> DMA but with "swiotlb=force" should confirm or disprove that.

I see this sequence in the iwlwifi driver, in the
iwl_save_fw_paging() function:

       block = alloc_pages(GFP_KERNEL, order);
       phys = dma_map_page(dev, block, 0,
               PAGE_SIZE << order, DMA_BIDIRECTIONAL);
       memcpy(page_address(block), ...);
       dma_sync_single_for_device(dev, phys, size, DMA_BIDIRECTIONAL);

Which clearly violates the interface by writing into
a page that is already owned by the device, without
giving it back to the cpu first. Not sure if or how this
would explain actual data corruption on armv7, since we
write back the buffers in both the map and sync operations
and never invalidate the cache, but the driver also doesn't
ever read from the buffer (despite it being bidirectional).
If it's not this problem, there is a good chance of others.

     Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-28 16:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-26 17:52 RFC: ARM && restricted DMA apparently not working Jim Quinlan
2023-09-26 17:52 ` [PATCH v1 1/1] ARM: Select DMA_DIRECT_REMAP to fix restricted DMA Jim Quinlan
2023-09-27  7:13   ` kernel test robot
2023-09-27 23:10   ` Linus Walleij
2023-09-28 12:07     ` Jim Quinlan
2023-09-28 13:09       ` Jim Quinlan
2023-09-28 13:32       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-28 14:00         ` Jim Quinlan
2023-09-28 14:01           ` Jim Quinlan
2023-09-28 15:16           ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-28 15:33             ` Robin Murphy
2023-09-28 16:20               ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2023-09-29 19:24             ` Jim Quinlan
2023-09-29 19:52               ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-29 21:13                 ` Jim Quinlan
2023-10-01 12:48                 ` Jim Quinlan
2023-09-28 15:47       ` Robin Murphy
2023-10-02 12:33         ` Jim Quinlan
2023-10-02 15:08           ` Robin Murphy
2023-10-02  6:16     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-05 17:53       ` Jim Quinlan
2023-10-06  7:40         ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]           ` <CGME20231020081648eucas1p17d2572cfca5762d2f5cbc560dd648564@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2023-10-20  8:16             ` Marek Szyprowski
2023-10-23  6:16               ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-09-28 16:24   ` Christophe Leroy

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