From: Ilya Maximets <i.maximets@ovn.org>
To: netdev@vger.kernel.org
Cc: i.maximets@ovn.org, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFE net-next] net: tun: 1000x speed up
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 18:09:58 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <eeb28c10-63ab-ecf6-7938-40257dfd12b2@ovn.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221021114921.3705550-1-i.maximets@ovn.org>
On 10/21/22 13:49, Ilya Maximets wrote:
> The 10Mbps link speed was set in 2004 when the ethtool interface was
> initially added to the tun driver. It might have been a good
> assumption 18 years ago, but CPUs and network stack came a long way
> since then.
>
> Other virtual ports typically report much higher speeds. For example,
> veth reports 10Gbps since its introduction in 2007.
>
> Some userspace applications rely on the current link speed in
> certain situations. For example, Open vSwitch is using link speed
> as an upper bound for QoS configuration if user didn't specify the
> maximum rate. Advertised 10Mbps doesn't match reality in a modern
> world, so users have to always manually override the value with
> something more sensible to avoid configuration issues, e.g. limiting
> the traffic too much. This also creates additional confusion among
> users.
>
> Bump the advertised speed to at least match the veth. 10Gbps also
> seems like a more or less fair assumption these days, even though
> CPUs can do more. Alternative might be to explicitly report UNKNOWN
> and let the application/user decide on a right value for them.
>
> Link: https://mail.openvswitch.org/pipermail/ovs-discuss/2022-July/051958.html
> Signed-off-by: Ilya Maximets <i.maximets@ovn.org>
> ---
>
> Sorry for the clickbait subject line. Can change it to something more
> sensible while posting non-RFE patch. Something like:
>
> 'net: tun: bump the link speed from 10Mbps to 10Gbps'
>
> This patch is RFE just to start a conversation.
OK. There seems to be no more discussions around the topic, so
I'll make a conclusion.
General understanding is that reporting UNKNOWN will cause problems
with bonding (not sure why anyone will add tap into bonding outside
of just for testing reasons, but that's a different topic) and will
potentially cause problems with userpsace applications that do not
handle that case for some reason. So, this is a risky option at the
moment.
There was no strong opinion against equalizing speeds between veth
and tun/tap. Sounds like a safe option in general and there are no
known use cases that will be negatively affected.
So, I think, I'll go ahead and post the non-RFC version of the
proposed change.
Thanks!
Best regards, Ilya Maximets.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-10-31 17:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-10-21 11:49 Ilya Maximets
2022-10-21 11:50 ` Ilya Maximets
2022-10-21 16:07 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-10-24 9:44 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2022-10-24 11:56 ` Ilya Maximets
2022-10-24 12:27 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2022-10-24 15:39 ` Ilya Maximets
2022-10-24 15:59 ` Antonio Quartulli
2022-10-24 17:48 ` Ilya Maximets
2022-10-25 22:16 ` Antonio Quartulli
2022-10-26 12:56 ` Ilya Maximets
2022-10-24 11:08 ` Pavel Machek
2022-10-24 11:14 ` Ilya Maximets
2022-10-31 17:09 ` Ilya Maximets [this message]
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