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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 08. 09. 25, 0:25, Linus Torvalds wrote: > So please: don't add useless information to commits in general, but in > _particular_ don't add "Link:" tags that only point back to the > original submission email. Yes, we have tooling that does it > automatically, but tooling should not be used to increase the human > burden. Tooling should _help_, not hurt. I disagree. In a bug-reporter role, I use these Links pointing to the patches every time. So unless there is a way (I did not find one), they are very useful. My use case is (mostly) dig out the thread/patch (grep Link, and b4 or https://lore.kernel.org/all -> raw) and reply to it as it causes some issue. In a backporter role, I use the Links to look at the thread to see the _whole_ patchset instead of guess work from the linear commit log. > Make the links be something *useful*. Make them point to the report > for the bug that was the cause of the commit. Make them point to the > discussion that explains the impetus for the commit. But do *not* > mindlessly just use tooling to create a link that doesn't add anything > that isn't already right there in the commit. > > I realize that people think the link makes the commit look more "real" > or whatever. And I've heard people claim that discussion happens later > in the thread that the link points to. Neither of those are actually > true. When bugs happen, people don't go to the original emailed patch > to talk about them. Much of the time the reporter can't even tell > which patch caused it - and if they did bisect it, we already have the > information - there's no value add in going back to the original > emailed patch. > > So if a link doesn't have any extra relevant information in it, just > don't add it at all in some misguided hope that tomorrow it will be > useful. > > Make "Link:" tags be something to celebrate, not something to curse > because they are worthless and waste peoples time. OK, can we have Submitted-at: or something for the above which you could completely ignore? Actually we have Closes:. So should you look at Closes instead and ignore Link? Like for example in 92bac7d4de9c0. I know, there is no standardization and different people use Links for different purpose, so perhaps we unify/document all those and drop Link completely? (Ie. having Closes, Submitted-at or such?) thanks, -- js suse labs