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From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
To: Eliot Courtney <ecourtney@nvidia.com>,
	Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>,
	Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
	David Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>, Simona Vetter <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	Benno Lossin <lossin@kernel.org>, Gary Guo <gary@garyguo.net>
Cc: nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	dri-devel <dri-devel-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/4] gpu: nova-core: gsp: add sync and async command queue API to `Cmdq`
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2026 18:44:05 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f0429b19-937e-4dcd-a0ac-7e795014651a@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DGRXSDSDMUOI.31863U05DR3VA@nvidia.com>

On 3/1/26 6:22 PM, Eliot Courtney wrote:
> On Sat Feb 28, 2026 at 3:11 PM JST, John Hubbard wrote:
>> On 2/26/26 7:50 AM, Eliot Courtney wrote:
>>> Add sync and async command queue API and the type infrastructure to know
>>> what reply is expected from each `CommandToGsp`.
>>>
>>> Use a marker type `NoReply` which does not implement `MessageFromGsp` to
>>> mark async commands which don't expect a response.
>>>
>> ...
> Hi John,
> 
> I totally agree and was hoping that someone would have a good suggestion
> for this. I discussed this exact thing with Alex before posting this
> too. So if you have any naming suggestions would love to hear them.
> 
> As you say, sync and async are orthogonal to reply vs no reply. I think
> we have several ideas here actually:
> - blocking vs non-blocking
> - reply vs no-reply
> - wait for reply vs don't wait for reply (practically equivalent to
>    blocking vs non-blocking here, but conceptually the send could also be
>    blocking vs non-blocking)
> 
> We should also be careful with conflating waiting for the reply vs not
> having a reply. So `send_without_waiting_for_reply` is definitely
> confusing to me, because there may be a reply that we just don't wait
> for.
> 
> Some ideas:
> - send_command_with_reply + send_command_without_reply
>    - Maybe non-obvious that this blocks for send_command_with_reply.
> - send_and_wait_for_reply + send_no_reply
>    - More obvious that it blocks and gets the reply.
>    - Should be obvious from context that you are sending a command
>      anyway.
> 
> Personally I think it's nice to keep a convention of keeping it
> mostly obvious which functions block/wait. (e.g. we already have
> wait_for_msg in cmdq.rs).
> 
> For lack of a better idea  i suggest send_and_wait_for_reply +
> send_no_reply for now.

That sounds great, I'd love to start with that. Simple and clear.

One thing: "send no reply" sounds a lot like "do not send a reply". :)
So maybe:

     send_and_wait_for_reply()
     send_without_waiting_for_reply()

? Or something along those lines? It's really verbose I know...

thanks,
-- 
John Hubbard


  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-02  2:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-26 14:50 [PATCH v2 0/4] gpu: nova-core: gsp: add locking to Cmdq Eliot Courtney
2026-02-26 14:50 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] gpu: nova-core: gsp: fix stale doc comments on command queue methods Eliot Courtney
2026-02-26 14:50 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] gpu: nova-core: gsp: add sync and async command queue API to `Cmdq` Eliot Courtney
2026-02-28  6:11   ` John Hubbard
2026-03-02  2:22     ` Eliot Courtney
2026-03-02  2:44       ` John Hubbard [this message]
2026-03-02  3:03       ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-02  3:08         ` John Hubbard
2026-03-02  4:42           ` Eliot Courtney
2026-03-02  5:31             ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-02 17:26         ` Gary Guo
2026-03-02 12:28     ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-02 18:03       ` John Hubbard
2026-03-03  2:46       ` Eliot Courtney
2026-02-26 14:50 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] gpu: nova-core: gsp: make `Cmdq` a pinned type Eliot Courtney
2026-03-02 17:33   ` Gary Guo
2026-03-03  3:42     ` Eliot Courtney
2026-02-26 14:50 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] gpu: nova-core: gsp: add mutex locking to Cmdq Eliot Courtney
2026-03-02 17:36   ` Gary Guo
2026-03-03  3:47     ` Eliot Courtney
2026-03-03  7:58       ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-26 18:48 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] gpu: nova-core: gsp: add " Zhi Wang

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