From: Alexey Skidanov <alexey.skidanov@intel.com>
To: Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com>,
sumit.semwal@linaro.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
arve@android.com, tkjos@android.com, maco@android.com,
devel@driverdev.osuosl.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] staging: android: ion: Add requested allocation alignment
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 23:39:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f1b008cc-b94d-2ab1-b618-7b6b13f9298a@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <de9c0071-c45b-608c-67ab-015b284a6082@redhat.com>
On 02/12/2018 10:46 PM, Laura Abbott wrote:
> On 02/12/2018 12:22 PM, Alexey Skidanov wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 02/12/2018 09:52 PM, Laura Abbott wrote:
>>> On 02/12/2018 11:11 AM, Alexey Skidanov wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 02/12/2018 08:42 PM, Laura Abbott wrote:
>>>>> On 02/10/2018 02:17 AM, Alexey Skidanov wrote:
>>>>>> Current ion defined allocation ioctl doesn't allow to specify the
>>>>>> requested
>>>>>> allocation alignment. CMA heap allocates buffers aligned on buffer
>>>>>> size
>>>>>> page order.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sometimes, the alignment requirement is less restrictive. In such
>>>>>> cases,
>>>>>> providing specific alignment may reduce the external memory
>>>>>> fragmentation
>>>>>> and in some cases it may avoid the allocation request failure.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I really do not want to bring this back as part of the regular
>>>>> ABI.
>>>> Yes, I know it was removed in 4.12.
>>>> Having an alignment parameter that gets used for exactly
>>>>> one heap only leads to confusion (which is why it was removed
>>>>> from the ABI in the first place).
>>>> You are correct regarding the CMA heap. But, probably it may be used by
>>>> custom heap as well.
>>>
>>> I can think of a lot of instances where it could be used but
>>> ultimately there needs to be an actual in kernel user who wants
>>> it.
>>>
>>>>> The alignment came from the behavior of the DMA APIs. Do you
>>>>> actually need to specify any alignment from userspace or do
>>>>> you only need page size?
>>>> Yes. If CMA gives it for free, I would suggest to let the ion user to
>>>> decide
>>>
>>> I'm really not convinced changing the ABI yet again just to let
>>> the user decide is actually worth it. If we can manage it, I'd
>>> much rather see a proposal that doesn't change the ABI.
>> I didn't actually change the ABI - I just use the "unused" member:
>> struct ion_allocation_data {
>> @@ -80,7 +79,7 @@ struct ion_allocation_data {
>> __u32 heap_id_mask;
>> __u32 flags;
>> __u32 fd;
>> - __u32 unused;
>> + __u32 align;
>> };
>>
>
> Something that was previously unused is now being used. That's a change
> in how the structure is interpreted which is an ABI change, especially
> since we haven't been checking that the __unused field is set
> to 0.
Yes you are correct. I just realized that it isn't even backward
compatible.
>
>> As an alternative, I may add __u64 heap_specific_param - but this will
>> change the ABI. But, probably it makes the ABI more generic?
>
> Why does the ABI need to be more generic? If we change the ABI
> we're stuck with it and I'd like to approach it as the very last
> resort.
>
> Thanks,
> Laura
It seems, that there is no way to do it without some ABI change?
Thanks,
Alexey
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Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-02-10 10:17 Alexey Skidanov
2018-02-12 18:42 ` Laura Abbott
2018-02-12 19:11 ` Alexey Skidanov
2018-02-12 19:52 ` Laura Abbott
2018-02-12 20:22 ` Alexey Skidanov
2018-02-12 20:46 ` Laura Abbott
2018-02-12 21:39 ` Alexey Skidanov [this message]
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