From: "shenkai (D)" <shenkai8@huawei.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
<hewenliang4@huawei.com>, <hushiyuan@huawei.com>,
<luolongjun@huawei.com>, <hejingxian@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] use x86 cpu park to speedup smp_init in kexec situation
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 16:45:34 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f2a4d172-fa17-9f98-ad8f-d69f84ad0df5@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87eejqu5q5.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>
在 2020/12/16 5:20, Thomas Gleixner 写道:
> On Tue, Dec 15 2020 at 08:31, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 6:46 AM shenkai (D) <shenkai8@huawei.com> wrote:
>>> From: shenkai <shenkai8@huawei.com>
>>> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 01:58:06 +0000
>>> Subject: [PATCH] use x86 cpu park to speedup smp_init in kexec situation
>>>
>>> In kexec reboot on x86 machine, APs will be halted and then waked up
>>> by the apic INIT and SIPI interrupt. Here we can let APs spin instead
>>> of being halted and boot APs by writing to specific address. In this way
>>> we can accelerate smp_init procedure for we don't need to pull APs up
>>> from a deep C-state.
>>>
>>> This is meaningful in many situations where users are sensitive to reboot
>>> time cost.
>> I like the concept.
> No. This is the wrong thing to do. We are not optimizing for _one_
> special case.
>
> We can optimize it for all operations where all the non boot CPUs have
> to brought up, be it cold boot, hibernation resume or kexec.
>
> Aside of that this is not a magic X86 special problem. Pretty much all
> architectures have the same issue and it can be solved very simple,
> which has been discussed before and I outlined the solution years ago,
> but nobody sat down and actually made it work.
>
> Since the rewrite of the CPU hotplug infrastructure to a state machine
> it's pretty obvious that the bringup of APs can changed from the fully
> serialized:
>
> for_each_present_cpu(cpu) {
> if (!cpu_online(cpu))
> cpu_up(cpu, CPUHP_ONLINE);
> }
>
> to
>
> for_each_present_cpu(cpu) {
> if (!cpu_online(cpu))
> cpu_up(cpu, CPUHP_KICK_CPU);
> }
>
> for_each_present_cpu(cpu) {
> if (!cpu_active(cpu))
> cpu_up(cpu, CPUHP_ONLINE);
> }
>
> The CPUHP_KICK_CPU state does not exist today, but it's just the logical
> consequence of the state machine. It's basically splitting __cpu_up()
> into:
>
> __cpu_kick()
> {
> prepare();
> arch_kick_remote_cpu(); -> Send IPI/NMI, Firmware call .....
> }
>
> __cpu_wait_online()
> {
> wait_until_cpu_online();
> do_further_stuff();
> }
>
> There is some more to it than just blindly splitting it up at the
> architecture level.
>
> All __cpu_up() implementations across arch/ have a lot of needlessly
> duplicated and pointlessly differently implemented code which can move
> completely into the core.
>
> So actually we want to split this further up:
>
> CPUHP_PREPARE_CPU_UP: Generic preparation step where all
> the magic cruft which is duplicated
> across architectures goes to
>
> CPUHP_KICK_CPU: Architecture specific prepare and kick
>
> CPUHP_WAIT_ONLINE: Generic wait function for CPU coming
> online: wait_for_completion_timeout()
> which releases the upcoming CPU and
> invokes an optional arch_sync_cpu_up()
> function which finalizes the bringup.
> and on the AP side:
>
> CPU comes up, does all the low level setup, sets online, calls
> complete() and the spinwaits for release.
>
> Once the control CPU comes out of the completion it releases the
> spinwait.
>
> That works for all bringup situations and not only for kexec and the
> simple trick is that by the time the last CPU has been kicked in the
> first step, the first kicked CPU is already spinwaiting for release.
>
> By the time the first kicked CPU has completed the process, i.e. reached
> the active state, then the next CPU is spinwaiting and so on.
>
> If you look at the provided time saving:
>
> Mainline: 210ms
> Patched: 80ms
> -----------------------------
> Delta 130ms
>
> i.e. it takes ~ 1.8ms to kick and wait for the AP to come up and ~ 1.1ms
> per CPU for the whole bringup. It does not completly add up, but it has
> a clear benefit for everything.
>
> Also the changelog says that the delay is related to CPUs in deep
> C-states. If CPUs are brought down for kexec then it's trivial enough to
> limit the C-states or just not use mwait() at all.
>
> It would be interesting to see the numbers just with play_dead() using
> hlt() or mwait(eax=0, 0) for the kexec case and no other change at all.
>
> Thanks,
>
> tglx
>
Thanks for your and Andy's precious comments. I would like to take a try on
reconstructing this patch to make it more decent and generic.
Thanks again
Kai
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-12-16 8:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-12-15 14:46 shenkai (D)
2020-12-15 16:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-15 21:20 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-16 8:45 ` shenkai (D) [this message]
2020-12-16 10:12 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-16 14:18 ` shenkai (D)
2020-12-16 15:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-17 14:53 ` shenkai (D)
2021-01-07 15:18 ` David Woodhouse
2021-01-19 12:12 ` David Woodhouse
2021-01-21 14:55 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-01-21 15:42 ` David Woodhouse
2021-01-21 17:34 ` David Woodhouse
2021-01-21 19:59 ` [PATCH] x86/apic/x2apic: Fix parallel handling of cluster_mask David Woodhouse
2021-02-01 10:36 ` [PATCH] use x86 cpu park to speedup smp_init in kexec situation David Woodhouse
2021-02-01 10:38 ` [PATCH 1/6] x86/apic/x2apic: Fix parallel handling of cluster_mask David Woodhouse
2021-02-01 10:38 ` [PATCH 2/6] cpu/hotplug: Add dynamic states before CPUHP_BRINGUP_CPU for parallel bringup David Woodhouse
2021-02-01 10:38 ` [PATCH 3/6] x86/smpboot: Reference count on smpboot_setup_warm_reset_vector() David Woodhouse
2021-02-01 10:38 ` [PATCH 4/6] x86/smpboot: Split up native_cpu_up into separate phases David Woodhouse
2021-02-01 10:38 ` [PATCH 5/6] cpu/hotplug: Move idle_thread_get() to <linux/smpboot.h> David Woodhouse
2021-02-01 10:38 ` [PATCH 6/6] pre states for x86 David Woodhouse
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[not found] ` <27357c74bdc3b52bdf59e6f48cd8690495116d64.camel@infradead.org>
[not found] ` <877dnedt7l.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>
[not found] ` <87zh09tcqz.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>
2021-02-16 13:53 ` [PATCH] use x86 cpu park to speedup smp_init in kexec situation David Woodhouse
2021-02-16 15:10 ` David Woodhouse
2021-02-16 21:18 ` David Woodhouse
2021-12-08 14:14 ` David Woodhouse
2021-12-08 14:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-12-08 15:10 ` David Woodhouse
2021-12-08 16:57 ` David Woodhouse
2021-12-08 17:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-12-08 18:32 ` David Woodhouse
2021-12-08 19:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-12-08 20:35 ` David Woodhouse
2021-12-08 21:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
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