From: Bernd Schubert <bernd@bsbernd.com>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
Horst Birthelmer <horst@birthelmer.com>
Cc: Bernd Schubert <bschubert@ddn.com>,
Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@gmail.com>,
Luis Henriques <luis@igalia.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Horst Birthelmer <hbirthelmer@ddn.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/3] fuse: add compound command to combine multiple requests
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2026 21:36:14 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f38cf69e-57b9-494b-a90a-ede72aa12a54@bsbernd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJfpegvt0HwHOmOTzkCoOqdmvU6pf-wM228QQSauDsbcL+mmUA@mail.gmail.com>
On 2/11/26 17:13, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Feb 2026 at 09:46, Horst Birthelmer <horst@birthelmer.com> wrote:
>
>> +static char *fuse_compound_build_one_op(struct fuse_conn *fc,
>> + struct fuse_args *op_args,
>> + char *buffer_pos)
>> +{
>> + struct fuse_in_header *hdr;
>> + size_t needed_size = sizeof(struct fuse_in_header);
>> + int j;
>> +
>> + for (j = 0; j < op_args->in_numargs; j++)
>> + needed_size += op_args->in_args[j].size;
>> +
>> + hdr = (struct fuse_in_header *)buffer_pos;
>> + memset(hdr, 0, sizeof(*hdr));
>> + hdr->len = needed_size;
>> + hdr->opcode = op_args->opcode;
>> + hdr->nodeid = op_args->nodeid;
>
> hdr->unique is notably missing.
>
> I don't know. Maybe just fill it with the index?
>
>> + hdr->uid = from_kuid(fc->user_ns, current_fsuid());
>> + hdr->gid = from_kgid(fc->user_ns, current_fsgid());
>
> uid/gid are not needed except for creation ops, and those need idmap
> to calculate the correct values. I don't think we want to keep legacy
> behavior of always setting these.
>
>> + hdr->pid = pid_nr_ns(task_pid(current), fc->pid_ns);
>
> This will be the same as the value in the compound header, so it's
> redundant. That might not be bad, but I feel that we're better off
> setting this to zero and letting the userspace server fetch the pid
> value from the compound header if that's needed.
>
>> +#define FUSE_MAX_COMPOUND_OPS 16 /* Maximum operations per compound */
>
> Don't see a good reason to declare this in the API. More sensible
> would be to negotiate a max_request_size during INIT.
>
>> +
>> +#define FUSE_COMPOUND_SEPARABLE (1<<0)
>> +#define FUSE_COMPOUND_ATOMIC (1<<1)
>
> What is the meaning of these flags?
>
>> +
>> +/*
>> + * Compound request header
>> + *
>> + * This header is followed by the fuse requests
>> + */
>> +struct fuse_compound_in {
>> + uint32_t count; /* Number of operations */
>
> This is redundant, as the sum of the sub-request lengths is equal to
> the compound request length, hence calculating the number of ops is
> trivial.
>
>> + uint32_t flags; /* Compound flags */
>> +
>> + /* Total size of all results.
>> + * This is needed for preallocating the whole result for all
>> + * commands in this compound.
>> + */
>> + uint32_t result_size;
>
> I don't understand why this is needed. Preallocation by the userspace
> server? Why is this different from a simple request?
With simple request and a single request per buffer, one can re-use the
existing buffer for the reply in fuse-server
- write: Do the write operation, then store the result into the io-buffer
- read: Copy the relatively small header, store the result into the
io-buffer
- Meta-operations: Same as read
Compound:
- iterate over each compound, store the result into a temporary buffer
- After completion, copy the temporary buffer back into the compound
Which then results in the choice of
- Make the temporary buffer as large as the IO buffer
- Reallocate for each compound, or something like 2x 1st buffer
- Allocate the exact size of what kernel nows the reply is supposed to
be on success
In this specific case I had especially asked to store the result size
into the compound to simplify code in libfuse.
Question, this is a just a uint32_t, does it hurt to leave it? Maybe
with the additional comment like "Optimization, not strictly needed, but
might simplify fuse-server".
Thanks,
Bernd
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-11 20:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-10 8:46 [PATCH v5 0/3] fuse: compound commands Horst Birthelmer
2026-02-10 8:46 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] fuse: add compound command to combine multiple requests Horst Birthelmer
2026-02-11 14:59 ` Luis Henriques
2026-02-11 16:18 ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-02-11 16:13 ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-02-11 16:35 ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-02-12 9:38 ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-02-12 9:53 ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-02-12 10:23 ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-02-12 10:48 ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-02-12 12:10 ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-02-12 12:33 ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-02-14 1:04 ` Joanne Koong
2026-02-11 20:36 ` Bernd Schubert [this message]
2026-02-12 9:07 ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-02-12 9:48 ` Bernd Schubert
2026-02-12 10:16 ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-02-12 10:43 ` Bernd Schubert
2026-02-12 11:44 ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-02-14 1:35 ` Joanne Koong
2026-02-14 12:54 ` Bernd Schubert
2026-02-14 17:50 ` Re: " Horst Birthelmer
2026-02-16 11:43 ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-02-16 15:22 ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-02-17 7:26 ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-02-17 7:28 ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-03-06 0:52 ` Joanne Koong
2026-03-06 8:17 ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-02-12 11:55 ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-02-10 8:46 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] fuse: create helper functions for filling in fuse args for open and getattr Horst Birthelmer
2026-02-10 8:46 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] fuse: add an implementation of open+getattr Horst Birthelmer
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