From: wangtao <tao.wangtao@honor.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>
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Subject: RE: [PATCH 03/15] mm: introduce anon_vma_tree_t for multiple anon_vma topologies
Date: Thu, 28 May 2026 09:00:02 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f53d9327cf064c87aec7c50e867b0e0d@honor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ahbatfs3G-Qkh7Vk@lucifer>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/15] mm: introduce anon_vma_tree_t for multiple
> anon_vma topologies
>
> On Wed, May 27, 2026 at 07:01:35PM +0800, tao wrote:
> > Prepare for upcoming ANON_VMA_LAZY support and RCU-based lockless
> rmap
> > traversal by clearly separating anon_vma topology handling from the
> > anon_rmap semantics.
>
> RCU is not 'lockless'... and if you truly get RCU semantics you break a bunch
> of stuff as I found out.
>
RCU is required when acquiring anon_vma or vma. When calling
rmap_one, RCU lock is not required; the lock is obtained with
anon_rmap_lock_read() or folio_lock_anon_rmap_read().
For regular anon_vma, the anon_vma lock is still used. For
ANON_VMA_LAZY, there is only one vma, so the anon_vma lock is not
needed; we only need to ensure the vma is valid.
> >
> > Prepare for supporting multiple anon_vma topologies by introducing
> > lightweight abstractions used by the VMA and rmap code.
> >
> > Introduce anon_vma_tree_t as the type stored in vma->anon_vma:
> >
> > typedef unsigned long anon_vma_tree_t;
> >
> > It represents a tagged pointer encoding a reference to the anon_vma
> > topology. The low bits are reserved as type tags to distinguish
> > different implementations (e.g. regular anon_vma and lazy anon_vma).
> > This keeps the VMA representation compact while allowing the topology
> > to evolve without changing the VMA layout.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: tao <tao.wangtao@honor.com>
>
> The commit message is at least better on this one, but this approach is again,
> predicated on extending a broken abstraction.
>
> You could have saved time and effort by coming forward with this earlier to
> the community.
>
> You're also adding a bunch more messy code on top of anon_vma. It's just
> the wrong direction.
>
I will update the commit message to add more explanation.
> >
> > +/* anon_vma_tree_t APIs */
> > +
> > +static inline anon_vma_tree_t make_anon_vma_tree(struct anon_vma
> > +*anon_vma) {
> > + return (anon_vma_tree_t)anon_vma;
> > +}
>
> You're literally returning an unsigned long of an anon_vma here?
>
> Why is the anon_rmap_t a wrapped struct and this an unsigned long?
>
anon_vma_tree_t uses unsigned long because it is used internally
by rmap.c and vma.c. In other places it is mainly used to check
whether a fault has occurred.
> > +
> > +static inline struct anon_vma
> *anon_vma_tree_anon_vma(anon_vma_tree_t
> > +anon_tree) {
> > + return (struct anon_vma *)anon_tree; }
>
> The anon_tree is an anon_vma? What?
>
> And it's a tagged pointer but we don't bother clearing any bits right?...!
>
When supporting ANON_VMA_LAZY, the lower bits definitions are added.
I will add comments to clarify this.
> > +static inline void anon_vma_tree_unlock_read(anon_vma_tree_t
> > +anon_tree) {
> > + struct anon_vma *anon_vma =
> anon_vma_tree_anon_vma(anon_tree);
> > +
> > + anon_vma_unlock_read(anon_vma);
> > +}
> > +
>
> You keep adding more and more code on top of the existing mess. This is
> NOT what we want.
>
Additional handling is introduced when enabling ANON_VMA_LAZY;
I will add comments to clarify this.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-28 9:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-27 11:01 [PATCH 0/15] mm: introduce ANON_VMA_LAZY for deferred anon_vma creation tao
2026-05-27 11:01 ` [PATCH 01/15] mm/rmap: introduce anon_rmap APIs for anonymous folios tao
2026-05-27 11:44 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-28 7:47 ` wangtao
2026-05-27 11:01 ` [PATCH 02/15] mm: convert anon_vma rmap APIs to anon_rmap tao
2026-05-27 11:49 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-28 8:55 ` wangtao
2026-05-27 11:01 ` [PATCH 03/15] mm: introduce anon_vma_tree_t for multiple anon_vma topologies tao
2026-05-27 11:56 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-28 9:00 ` wangtao [this message]
2026-05-27 11:01 ` [PATCH 04/15] mm: switch to anon_vma_tree_t APIs in preparation for ANON_VMA_LAZY tao
2026-05-27 11:01 ` [PATCH 05/15] mm: add CONFIG_ANON_VMA_LAZY and folio helpers tao
2026-05-27 11:01 ` [PATCH 06/15] mm: add CONFIG_VMA_REF and VMA helpers tao
2026-05-27 11:01 ` [PATCH 07/15] mm: replace direct FOLIO_MAPPING_ANON usage with helpers tao
2026-05-27 11:01 ` [PATCH 08/15] mm: prepare rmap infrastructure for ANON_VMA_LAZY tao
2026-05-27 11:01 ` [PATCH 09/15] mm: implement ANON_VMA_LAZY rmap semantics tao
2026-05-27 11:01 ` [PATCH 10/15] mm: defer anon_vma creation with ANON_VMA_LAZY tao
2026-05-27 11:01 ` [PATCH 11/15] mm: handle ANON_VMA_LAZY in huge page operations tao
2026-05-27 11:01 ` [PATCH 12/15] mm: handle ANON_VMA_LAZY during migration tao
2026-05-27 11:01 ` [PATCH 13/15] mm: support setup and upgrade of ANON_VMA_LAZY folios tao
2026-05-27 11:01 ` [PATCH 14/15] mm: support merging of ANON_VMA_LAZY VMAs tao
2026-05-27 11:01 ` [PATCH 15/15] mm: enable CONFIG_ANON_VMA_LAZY on arm64 and x86_64 tao
2026-05-27 11:23 ` [PATCH 0/15] mm: introduce ANON_VMA_LAZY for deferred anon_vma creation Pedro Falcato
2026-05-28 6:45 ` wangtao
2026-05-28 7:14 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-27 11:30 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-28 7:11 ` wangtao
2026-05-28 7:22 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-27 14:33 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-28 7:57 ` wangtao
2026-05-28 8:14 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-28 23:31 ` Barry Song
2026-05-29 2:20 ` wangzicheng
2026-05-29 6:56 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-29 6:45 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-29 9:41 ` wangtao
2026-05-29 12:03 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-01 1:46 ` wangtao
2026-06-02 2:15 ` Barry Song
2026-06-02 2:46 ` Lance Yang
2026-06-02 15:37 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-02 19:44 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-06-02 23:03 ` Barry Song
2026-06-03 7:07 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-02 19:56 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-02 22:27 ` Barry Song
2026-06-02 20:47 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-29 15:07 ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-05-29 15:40 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-30 11:28 ` Barry Song
2026-06-02 16:07 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-03 2:59 ` wangtao
2026-06-03 3:12 ` wangtao
2026-06-03 7:54 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-03 11:05 ` wangtao
2026-06-03 11:53 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-04 3:50 ` wangtao
2026-06-03 20:25 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-03 22:14 ` Barry Song
2026-06-04 4:03 ` wangtao
2026-06-04 4:20 ` Barry Song
2026-06-04 7:35 ` wangtao
2026-06-09 15:26 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-09 15:49 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-04 3:10 ` xu.xin16
2026-06-04 4:10 ` wangtao
2026-06-05 9:38 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-05 10:07 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-05 10:56 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-04 9:40 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
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