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From: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
To: Youssef Esmat <youssefesmat@chromium.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Tobias Huschle <huschle@linux.ibm.com>,
	Luis Machado <luis.machado@arm.com>,
	Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>, Abel Wu <wuyun.abel@bytedance.com>,
	Tianchen Ding <dtcccc@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Xuewen Yan <xuewen.yan94@gmail.com>,
	"Gautham R. Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/1] sched/eevdf: Skip eligibility check for current entity during wakeup preemption
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2024 08:36:19 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f59c92ff-259b-5b89-9af5-fcaefccd4b23@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+q576OCK24VSp+s4OLD2ogO48i95y39_JO=zV=TwHSEg3_b1w@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Youssef,

On 3/25/2024 8:43 PM, Youssef Esmat wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 1:03 AM K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com> wrote:
>>
>> With the curr entity's eligibility check, a wakeup preemption is very
>> likely when an entity with positive lag joins the runqueue pushing the
>> avg_vruntime of the runqueue backwards, making the vruntime of the
>> current entity ineligible. This leads to aggressive wakeup preemption
>> which was previously guarded by wakeup_granularity_ns in legacy CFS.
>> Below figure depicts one such aggressive preemption scenario with EEVDF
>> in DeathStarBench [1]:
>>
>>                                 deadline for Nginx
>>                    |
>>         +-------+  |                    |
>>     /-- | Nginx | -|------------------> |
>>     |   +-------+  |                    |
>>     |              |
>>     |   -----------|-------------------------------> vruntime timeline
>>     |              \--> rq->avg_vruntime
>>     |
>>     |   wakes service on the same runqueue since system is busy
>>     |
>>     |   +---------+|
>>     \-->| Service || (service has +ve lag pushes avg_vruntime backwards)
>>         +---------+|
>>           |        |
>>    wakeup |     +--|-----+                       |
>>  preempts \---->| N|ginx | --------------------> | {deadline for Nginx}
>>                 +--|-----+                       |
>>            (Nginx ineligible)
>>         -----------|-------------------------------> vruntime timeline
>>                    \--> rq->avg_vruntime
>>
>> When NGINX server is involuntarily switched out, it cannot accept any
>> incoming request, leading to longer turn around time for the clients and
>> thus loss in DeathStarBench throughput.
>>
>>     ==================================================================
>>     Test          : DeathStarBench
>>     Units         : Normalized latency
>>     Interpretation: Lower is better
>>     Statistic     : Mean
>>     ==================================================================
>>     tip         1.00
>>     eevdf       1.14 (+14.61%)
>>
>> For current running task, skip eligibility check in pick_eevdf() if it
>> has not exhausted the slice promised to it during selection despite the
>> situation having changed since. The behavior is guarded by
>> RUN_TO_PARITY_WAKEUP sched_feat to simplify testing. With
>> RUN_TO_PARITY_WAKEUP enabled, performance loss seen with DeathStarBench
>> since the merge of EEVDF disappears. Following are the results from
>> testing on a Dual Socket 3rd Generation EPYC server (2 x 64C/128T):
>>
>>     ==================================================================
>>     Test          : DeathStarBench
>>     Units         : Normalized throughput
>>     Interpretation: Higher is better
>>     Statistic     : Mean
>>     ==================================================================
>>     Pinning      scaling     tip            run-to-parity-wakeup(pct imp)
>>      1CCD           1       1.00            1.16 (%diff: 16%)
>>      2CCD           2       1.00            1.03 (%diff: 3%)
>>      4CCD           4       1.00            1.12 (%diff: 12%)
>>      8CCD           8       1.00            1.05 (%diff: 6%)
>>
>> With spec_rstack_overflow=off, the DeathStarBench performance with the
>> proposed solution is same as the performance on v6.5 release before
>> EEVDF was merged.
> 
> Thanks for sharing this Prateek.
> We actually noticed we could also gain performance by disabling
> eligibility checks (but disable it on all paths).
> The following are a few threads we had on the topic:
> 
> Discussion around eligibility:
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CA+q576MS0-MV1Oy-eecvmYpvNT3tqxD8syzrpxQ-Zk310hvRbw@mail.gmail.com/
> Some of our results:
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CA+q576Mov1jpdfZhPBoy_hiVh3xSWuJjXdP3nS4zfpqfOXtq7Q@mail.gmail.com/
> Sched feature to disable eligibility:
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20231013030213.2472697-1-youssefesmat@chromium.org/
> 

Thank you for pointing me to the discussions. I'll give this a spin on
my machine and report back what I see. Hope some of it will help during
the OSPM discussion :)

>>
>> This may lead to newly waking task waiting longer for its turn on the
>> CPU, however, testing on the same system did not reveal any consistent
>> regressions with the standard benchmarks.
>>
>> Link: https://github.com/delimitrou/DeathStarBench/ [1]
>> Signed-off-by: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
>> ---
>>  [..snip..]
>>
 
--
Thanks and Regards,
Prateek

  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-26  3:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-25  6:02 [RFC PATCH 0/1] sched/eevdf: Curb wakeup preemption further K Prateek Nayak
2024-03-25  6:02 ` [RFC PATCH 1/1] sched/eevdf: Skip eligibility check for current entity during wakeup preemption K Prateek Nayak
2024-03-25 15:13   ` Youssef Esmat
2024-03-26  3:06     ` K Prateek Nayak [this message]
2024-04-17  6:08       ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-04-24 15:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-25  3:34     ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-07-12 11:31   ` [PATCH] [Question] sched/fair: Task starvation with RUN_TO_PARITY_WAKEUP under group topologies Chen Jinghuang
2026-07-13  3:25     ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-03-28 10:26 ` [RFC PATCH 0/1] sched/eevdf: Curb wakeup preemption further Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2024-03-29  3:16   ` K Prateek Nayak

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