From: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
To: Youssef Esmat <youssefesmat@chromium.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Tobias Huschle <huschle@linux.ibm.com>,
Luis Machado <luis.machado@arm.com>,
Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>, Abel Wu <wuyun.abel@bytedance.com>,
Tianchen Ding <dtcccc@linux.alibaba.com>,
Xuewen Yan <xuewen.yan94@gmail.com>,
"Gautham R. Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/1] sched/eevdf: Skip eligibility check for current entity during wakeup preemption
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2024 08:36:19 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f59c92ff-259b-5b89-9af5-fcaefccd4b23@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+q576OCK24VSp+s4OLD2ogO48i95y39_JO=zV=TwHSEg3_b1w@mail.gmail.com>
Hello Youssef,
On 3/25/2024 8:43 PM, Youssef Esmat wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 1:03 AM K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com> wrote:
>>
>> With the curr entity's eligibility check, a wakeup preemption is very
>> likely when an entity with positive lag joins the runqueue pushing the
>> avg_vruntime of the runqueue backwards, making the vruntime of the
>> current entity ineligible. This leads to aggressive wakeup preemption
>> which was previously guarded by wakeup_granularity_ns in legacy CFS.
>> Below figure depicts one such aggressive preemption scenario with EEVDF
>> in DeathStarBench [1]:
>>
>> deadline for Nginx
>> |
>> +-------+ | |
>> /-- | Nginx | -|------------------> |
>> | +-------+ | |
>> | |
>> | -----------|-------------------------------> vruntime timeline
>> | \--> rq->avg_vruntime
>> |
>> | wakes service on the same runqueue since system is busy
>> |
>> | +---------+|
>> \-->| Service || (service has +ve lag pushes avg_vruntime backwards)
>> +---------+|
>> | |
>> wakeup | +--|-----+ |
>> preempts \---->| N|ginx | --------------------> | {deadline for Nginx}
>> +--|-----+ |
>> (Nginx ineligible)
>> -----------|-------------------------------> vruntime timeline
>> \--> rq->avg_vruntime
>>
>> When NGINX server is involuntarily switched out, it cannot accept any
>> incoming request, leading to longer turn around time for the clients and
>> thus loss in DeathStarBench throughput.
>>
>> ==================================================================
>> Test : DeathStarBench
>> Units : Normalized latency
>> Interpretation: Lower is better
>> Statistic : Mean
>> ==================================================================
>> tip 1.00
>> eevdf 1.14 (+14.61%)
>>
>> For current running task, skip eligibility check in pick_eevdf() if it
>> has not exhausted the slice promised to it during selection despite the
>> situation having changed since. The behavior is guarded by
>> RUN_TO_PARITY_WAKEUP sched_feat to simplify testing. With
>> RUN_TO_PARITY_WAKEUP enabled, performance loss seen with DeathStarBench
>> since the merge of EEVDF disappears. Following are the results from
>> testing on a Dual Socket 3rd Generation EPYC server (2 x 64C/128T):
>>
>> ==================================================================
>> Test : DeathStarBench
>> Units : Normalized throughput
>> Interpretation: Higher is better
>> Statistic : Mean
>> ==================================================================
>> Pinning scaling tip run-to-parity-wakeup(pct imp)
>> 1CCD 1 1.00 1.16 (%diff: 16%)
>> 2CCD 2 1.00 1.03 (%diff: 3%)
>> 4CCD 4 1.00 1.12 (%diff: 12%)
>> 8CCD 8 1.00 1.05 (%diff: 6%)
>>
>> With spec_rstack_overflow=off, the DeathStarBench performance with the
>> proposed solution is same as the performance on v6.5 release before
>> EEVDF was merged.
>
> Thanks for sharing this Prateek.
> We actually noticed we could also gain performance by disabling
> eligibility checks (but disable it on all paths).
> The following are a few threads we had on the topic:
>
> Discussion around eligibility:
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CA+q576MS0-MV1Oy-eecvmYpvNT3tqxD8syzrpxQ-Zk310hvRbw@mail.gmail.com/
> Some of our results:
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CA+q576Mov1jpdfZhPBoy_hiVh3xSWuJjXdP3nS4zfpqfOXtq7Q@mail.gmail.com/
> Sched feature to disable eligibility:
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20231013030213.2472697-1-youssefesmat@chromium.org/
>
Thank you for pointing me to the discussions. I'll give this a spin on
my machine and report back what I see. Hope some of it will help during
the OSPM discussion :)
>>
>> This may lead to newly waking task waiting longer for its turn on the
>> CPU, however, testing on the same system did not reveal any consistent
>> regressions with the standard benchmarks.
>>
>> Link: https://github.com/delimitrou/DeathStarBench/ [1]
>> Signed-off-by: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
>> ---
>> [..snip..]
>>
--
Thanks and Regards,
Prateek
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-03-26 3:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-03-25 6:02 [RFC PATCH 0/1] sched/eevdf: Curb wakeup preemption further K Prateek Nayak
2024-03-25 6:02 ` [RFC PATCH 1/1] sched/eevdf: Skip eligibility check for current entity during wakeup preemption K Prateek Nayak
2024-03-25 15:13 ` Youssef Esmat
2024-03-26 3:06 ` K Prateek Nayak [this message]
2024-04-17 6:08 ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-04-24 15:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-25 3:34 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-07-12 11:31 ` [PATCH] [Question] sched/fair: Task starvation with RUN_TO_PARITY_WAKEUP under group topologies Chen Jinghuang
2026-07-13 3:25 ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-03-28 10:26 ` [RFC PATCH 0/1] sched/eevdf: Curb wakeup preemption further Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2024-03-29 3:16 ` K Prateek Nayak
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