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From: Tony W Wang-oc <TonyWWang-oc@zhaoxin.com>
To: <hpa@zytor.com>, Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Cc: <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>, <davem@davemloft.net>,
	<tglx@linutronix.de>, <mingo@redhat.com>, <bp@alien8.de>,
	<x86@kernel.org>, <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <TimGuo-oc@zhaoxin.com>,
	<CooperYan@zhaoxin.com>, <QiyuanWang@zhaoxin.com>,
	<HerryYang@zhaoxin.com>, <CobeChen@zhaoxin.com>,
	<SilviaZhao@zhaoxin.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] crypto: x86/crc32c-intel - Don't match some Zhaoxin CPUs
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 14:23:15 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f60dcdbd-ecc6-79bb-88f9-98116ca5fa66@zhaoxin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5804E9D1-15D2-41A9-A483-16985C9810FE@zytor.com>


On 22/12/2020 12:54, hpa@zytor.com wrote:
> On December 21, 2020 7:01:39 PM PST, tonywwang-oc@zhaoxin.com wrote:
>> On December 22, 2020 3:27:33 AM GMT+08:00, hpa@zytor.com wrote:
>>> On December 20, 2020 6:46:25 PM PST, tonywwang-oc@zhaoxin.com wrote:
>>>> On December 16, 2020 1:56:45 AM GMT+08:00, Eric Biggers
>>>> <ebiggers@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 10:15:29AM +0800, Tony W Wang-oc wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15/12/2020 04:41, Eric Biggers wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 10:28:19AM +0800, Tony W Wang-oc wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 12/12/2020 01:43, Eric Biggers wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 07:29:04PM +0800, Tony W Wang-oc
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> The driver crc32c-intel match CPUs supporting
>>>>> X86_FEATURE_XMM4_2.
>>>>>>>>>> On platforms with Zhaoxin CPUs supporting this X86 feature,
>>>> When
>>>>>>>>>> crc32c-intel and crc32c-generic are both registered, system
>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>> use crc32c-intel because its .cra_priority is greater than
>>>>>>>>>> crc32c-generic. This case expect to use crc32c-generic driver
>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> some Zhaoxin CPUs to get performance gain, So remove these
>>>>> Zhaoxin
>>>>>>>>>> CPUs support from crc32c-intel.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Tony W Wang-oc <TonyWWang-oc@zhaoxin.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Does this mean that the performance of the crc32c instruction
>>> on
>>>>> those CPUs is
>>>>>>>>> actually slower than a regular C implementation?  That's very
>>>>> weird.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From the lmbench3 Create and Delete file test on those chips, I
>>>>> think yes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did you try measuring the performance of the hashing itself, and
>>>>> not some
>>>>>>> higher-level filesystem operations?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes. Was testing on these Zhaoxin CPUs, the result is that with
>> the
>>>>> same
>>>>>> input value the generic C implementation takes fewer time than the
>>>>>> crc32c instruction implementation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And that is really "working as intended"?
>>>>
>>>> These CPU's crc32c instruction is not working as intended.
>>>>
>>>>  Why do these CPUs even
>>>>> declare that
>>>>> they support the crc32c instruction, when it is so slow?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The presence of crc32c and some other instructions supports are
>>>> enumerated by CPUID.01:ECX[SSE4.2] = 1,  other instructions are ok
>>>> except the crc32c instruction.
>>>>
>>>>> Are there any other instruction sets (AES-NI, PCLMUL, SSE, SSE2,
>> AVX,
>>>>> etc.) that
>>>>> these CPUs similarly declare support for but they are uselessly
>> slow?
>>>>
>>>> No.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely
>>>> Tonyw
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> - Eric
>>>
>>> Then the right thing to do is to disable the CPUID bit in the
>>> vendor-specific startup code.
>>
>> This way makes these CPUs do not support all instruction sets
>> enumerated
>> by CPUID.01:ECX[SSE4.2].
>> While only crc32c instruction is slow, just expect the crc32c-intel
>> driver do not
>> match these CPUs.
>>
>> Sincerely
>> Tonyw
> 
> Then create a BUG flag for it, or factor out CRC32C into a synthetic flag. We *do not* bury this information in drivers; it becomes a recipe for the same problems over and over.
> 

Thanks for your suggestion. Have send new patch set.

Sincerely
Tonyw

  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-07  6:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-11 11:29 Tony W Wang-oc
2020-12-11 13:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-12  4:32   ` Tony W Wang-oc
2020-12-11 17:43 ` Eric Biggers
2020-12-12  9:36   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-12-12 10:54     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-12-14  2:29       ` Tony W Wang-oc
2020-12-14  2:28   ` Tony W Wang-oc
2020-12-14 20:41     ` Eric Biggers
2020-12-15  2:15       ` Tony W Wang-oc
2020-12-15 17:56         ` Eric Biggers
2020-12-21  2:46           ` tonywwang-oc
2020-12-21 19:27             ` hpa
2020-12-22  3:01               ` tonywwang-oc
2020-12-22  4:54                 ` hpa
2021-01-07  6:23                   ` Tony W Wang-oc [this message]
2020-12-14  3:59 Tony W Wang-oc
2020-12-15  8:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-15 10:02   ` Tony W Wang-oc
2020-12-15 10:28 Tony W Wang-oc
2021-01-02 21:12 ` Herbert Xu
2021-01-07  6:27   ` Tony W Wang-oc

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