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From: Kyle Moffett <kyle@moffetthome.net>
To: Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -v2] Add MCE support to KVM
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 23:57:18 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f73f7ab80904192057q3d918ceco81c09febb493e1c3@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1240190385.6842.45.camel@yhuang-dev.sh.intel.com>

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 23:54 +0800, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> Huang Ying wrote:
>> > The related MSRs are emulated. MCE capability is exported via
>> > extension KVM_CAP_MCE and ioctl KVM_X86_GET_MCE_CAP_SUPPORTED. A new
>> > vcpu ioctl command KVM_X86_SETUP_MCE is used to setup MCE emulation
>> > such as the mcg_cap. MCE is injected via vcpu ioctl command
>> > KVM_X86_SET_MCE. Extended machine-check state (MCG_EXT_P) and CMCI are
>> > not simulated.
>> >
>>
>> Maybe I'm missing something, but couldn't this be implemented entirely
>> within userspace?  There's nothing VT/SVM specific about this.  If the
>> issue is setting these MSRs from userspace via KVM_SET_MSRS isn't
>> enough, perhaps we should add userspace MSR handling.
>>
>> Also, if you implement the MSR logic in userspace, it's pretty simple to
>> make it work in the non-TCG case which will be a requirement for
>> upstream merging.
>
> There is more logic than just KVM_SET_MSRS, such as BANK reporting
> disabling, overwriting rules, triple fault for UC MCE during MCIP.
> Although these logic can be implemented in user space, I think put them
> in kernel space is easy to be understood. And the code is pretty short.

IMO the main reason to put this in kernel-space would be to make it
possible to automatically forward some MCE errors generated by the
real hardware (RAM ECC errors for example) down into the VM.  Right
now I suppose you could do that with the patches to forward RAM-based
hard MCEs to userspace using SIGSEGV and handling the SIGSEGV in
userspace, but that seems more fragile to me.

Cheers,
Kyle Moffett

  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-20  3:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-17  7:29 Huang Ying
2009-04-18 15:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-19  8:39   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-21 16:06     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-21 16:19       ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-21 16:12     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-21 16:21       ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-21 19:55         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-21 20:00           ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-21 20:08             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-21 20:45               ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-21 21:16                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-22  5:57                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-22 13:32                     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-22 13:58                       ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-22  2:32         ` Huang Ying
2009-04-20  1:19   ` Huang Ying
2009-04-20  3:57     ` Kyle Moffett [this message]
2009-04-20  5:04       ` Huang Ying
2009-04-20  5:30       ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-22  2:42       ` Gregory Haskins

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