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From: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
To: Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>
Cc: Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/2] KVM: s390: avoid having to enable vm.alloc_pgste
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2017 09:25:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f758615c-babd-5a00-cb15-3a4b71e70afc@de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <787556bd-2c20-48e8-edd4-f4c5c5a5eaaf@de.ibm.com>

On 06/02/2017 09:18 AM, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
> On 06/02/2017 09:16 AM, Martin Schwidefsky wrote:
>> On Fri, 2 Jun 2017 09:13:03 +0200
>> Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 06/02/2017 09:02 AM, Heiko Carstens wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Jun 01, 2017 at 12:46:51PM +0200, Martin Schwidefsky wrote:  
>>>>>> Unfortunately, converting all page tables to 4k pgste page tables is
>>>>>> not possible without provoking various race conditions.  
>>>>>
>>>>> That is one approach we tried and was found to be buggy. The point is that
>>>>> you are not allowed to reallocate a page table while a VMA exists that is
>>>>> in the address range of that page table.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another approach we tried is to use an ELF flag on the qemu executable.
>>>>> That does not work either because fs/exec.c allocates and populates the
>>>>> new mm struct for the argument pages before fs/binfmt_elf.c comes into
>>>>> play.  
>>>>
>>>> How about if you would fail the system call within arch_check_elf() if you
>>>> detect that the binary requires pgstes (as indicated by elf flags) and then
>>>> restart the system call?
>>>>
>>>> That is: arch_check_elf() e.g. would set a thread flag that future mm's
>>>> should be allocated with pgstes. Then do_execve() would cleanup everything
>>>> and return to entry.S. Upon return to userspace we detect this condition
>>>> and simply restart the system call, similar to signals vs -ERESTARTSYS.
>>>>
>>>> That would make do_execve() cleanup everything and upon reentering it would
>>>> allocate an mm with the pgste flag set.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe this is a bit over-simplified, but might work.
>>>>
>>>> At least I also don't like the next "hack", that is specifically designed
>>>> to only work with how QEMU is currently implemented. It might break with
>>>> future QEMU changes or the next user space implementation that drives the
>>>> kvm interface, but is doing everything differently.
>>>> Let's look for a "clean" solution that will always work. We had too many
>>>> hacks for this problem and *all* of them were broken.  
>>>
>>>
>>> The more I think about it, dropping 2k page tables and always allocate a full
>>> page would simplify pgalloc. As far I can see this would also get rid of
>>> the &mm->context.pgtable_lock.
>>
>> And it would waste twice the amount of memory for page tables. NAK.
> 
> Yes and we spend the same amount of memory TODAY, because every distro on the
> planet that uses KVM has sysctl.allocate_pgste set.

Maybe todays approach might be still the best. (if qemu is installed, its all
4k, if not its all 2k)

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-02  7:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-29 16:32 David Hildenbrand
2017-05-29 16:32 ` [PATCH RFC 1/2] s390x: mm: allow mixed page table types (2k and 4k) David Hildenbrand
2017-06-01 11:39   ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-06-01 12:44     ` David Hildenbrand
2017-06-01 12:59   ` David Hildenbrand
2017-06-02  7:11     ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-05-29 16:32 ` [PATCH RFC 2/2] KVM: s390: Introduce KVM_VM_S390_LATE_MMAP David Hildenbrand
2017-06-01 10:46 ` [PATCH RFC 0/2] KVM: s390: avoid having to enable vm.alloc_pgste Martin Schwidefsky
2017-06-01 11:24   ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-06-01 11:27   ` David Hildenbrand
2017-06-02  7:06     ` Heiko Carstens
2017-06-02  7:02   ` Heiko Carstens
2017-06-02  7:13     ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-06-02  7:16       ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-06-02  7:18         ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-06-02  7:25           ` Christian Borntraeger [this message]
2017-06-02  8:11             ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-06-02  9:46     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-06-02 10:19       ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-06-02 10:53         ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-06-02 13:20           ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-06-07 12:34             ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-06-07 20:47               ` Heiko Carstens
2017-06-08  5:35                 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-06-08  6:25                   ` Heiko Carstens
2017-06-08 11:24                     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-06-08 13:17                       ` Heiko Carstens
2017-06-02 10:28       ` Heiko Carstens
2017-06-02 10:48         ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-06-02 10:54     ` David Hildenbrand

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