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From: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
To: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Damien Le Moal <damien.lemoal@opensource.wdc.com>,
	Wei Chen <harperchen1110@gmail.com>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com,
	syzbot <syzkaller@googlegroups.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: possible deadlock in __ata_sff_interrupt
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2022 23:41:11 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f86f666f-25f0-a742-b87e-bcf7ccbcca1e@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y50yFYjysKQlLWtK@ZenIV>

On 12/16/22 22:05, Al Viro wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 08:31:54PM -0600, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>> Ok, let's bring in Waiman for the rwlock side.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 5:54 PM Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Right, for a reader not in_interrupt(), it may be blocked by a random
>>> waiting writer because of the fairness, even the lock is currently held
>>> by a reader:
>>>
>>>          CPU 1                   CPU 2           CPU 3
>>>          read_lock(&tasklist_lock); // get the lock
>>>
>>>                                                  write_lock_irq(&tasklist_lock); // wait for the lock
>>>
>>>                                  read_lock(&tasklist_lock); // cannot get the lock because of the fairness
>> But this should be ok - because CPU1 can make progress and eventually
>> release the lock.
>>
>> So the tasklist_lock use is fine on its own - the reason interrupts
>> are special is because an interrupt on CPU 1 taking the lock for
>> reading would deadlock otherwise. As long as it happens on another
>> CPU, the original CPU should then be able to make progress.
>>
>> But the problem here seems to be thst *another* lock is also involved
>> (in this case apparently "host->lock", and now if CPU1 and CPU2 get
>> these two locks in a different order, you can get an ABBA deadlock.
>>
>> And apparently our lockdep machinery doesn't catch that issue, so it
>> doesn't get flagged.
> Lockdep has actually caught that; the locks involved are mention in the
> report (https://marc.info/?l=linux-ide&m=167094379710177&w=2).  The form
> of report might have been better, but if anything, it doesn't mention
> potential involvement of tasklist_lock writer, turning that into a deadlock.
>
> OTOH, that's more or less implicit for the entire class:
>
> read_lock(A)		[non-interrupt]
> 			local_irq_disable()	local_irq_disable()
> 			spin_lock(B)		write_lock(A)
> 			read_lock(A)
> [in interrupt]
> spin_lock(B)
>
> is what that sort of reports is about.  In this case A is tasklist_lock,
> B is host->lock.  Possible call chains for CPU1 and CPU2 are reported...
>
> I wonder why analogues of that hadn't been reported for other SCSI hosts -
> it's a really common pattern there...
>
>> I'm not sure what the lockdep rules for rwlocks are, but maybe lockdep
>> treats rwlocks as being _always_ unfair, not knowing about that "it's
>> only unfair when it's in interrupt context".
>>
>> Maybe we need to always make rwlock unfair? Possibly only for tasklist_lock?
That may not be a good idea as the cacheline bouncing problem will be 
back with reduced performance.
> ISTR threads about the possibility of explicit read_lock_unfair()...

Another possible alternative is to treat the read_lock as unfair if 
interrupt has been disabled as I think we should reduce the interrupt 
disabled interval as much as possible.

Thought?

Cheers,
Longman


      reply	other threads:[~2022-12-17  4:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-13 15:09 Wei Chen
2022-12-15  9:48 ` Damien Le Moal
2022-12-15 15:19   ` Al Viro
2022-12-16  1:44     ` Damien Le Moal
2022-12-16  3:41       ` Al Viro
2022-12-16 11:26         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-12-16 23:39           ` Al Viro
2022-12-16 23:54             ` Boqun Feng
2022-12-17  1:59               ` Al Viro
2022-12-17  3:25                 ` Boqun Feng
2022-12-17  2:31               ` Linus Torvalds
2022-12-17  2:59                 ` Boqun Feng
2022-12-17  3:05                 ` Al Viro
2022-12-17  4:41                   ` Waiman Long [this message]

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