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Thu, 13 Mar 2025 23:22:07 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: commit 7ffb791423c7 breaks steam game From: Bert Karwatzki To: Balbir Singh Cc: Ingo Molnar , Kees Cook , Bjorn Helgaas , Linus Torvalds , Peter Zijlstra , Andy Lutomirski , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, spasswolf@web.de Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 23:22:06 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <20250310112206.4168-1-spasswolf@web.de> <951f9d13-72e4-41c3-9ace-8639e2a9485d@nvidia.com> <09131c563332c892284ec7fb4ce706996131db8c.camel@web.de> <9a5df5627d3d72b2a97f501dfb7d944cc1e9920f.camel@web.de> <414f4deb8c7670a159854006b0c410ce05a6049e.camel@web.de> <12d950ee-4152-4ad6-b93e-7c5b75804b1a@nvidia.com> <705e95cec3dc5181ca2aa73722e6b84f63f3e91d.camel@web.de> <20b5823e-247a-456a-bb55-d50f212a9f5a@nvidia.com> <146277bb0ecbb392d490683c424b8ae0dfa82838.camel@web.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" User-Agent: Evolution 3.55.3-1 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:rj5ELexmLntZ+I/BKImxJ2NUsGXQQm8Hq6gR1qO/SPDNeJg8NQ9 sHM7ffS84LkVEazHXNw2DXtrNrE/Jc/dDttLUOzVz16AToVD8PIJCDZKv7QsOfCpPM4mntg cy1yODf++W8vlKldAEhrdFtb0St5LQ+gbKqFJ5Gr9LZ0ZQ+MviyhOznAH8rrgHy1iB7qvlT h0/KwB6q8qzqv41j7F4/A== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:xs21HzjfLmM=;srPHX5ZTK5pbj7nQhCTd1pIwZYb H8mzmkoMrmUAVJ2IucF0Om4GxF+jABv9DT4QsiLAJbliq97Cn2nutVCN8TBCf6BbYIYbOM0gI BLuh/4dtGKI6KSUbMjq1igd7fI61bZQ8GILXah8zmB6DkH0slXZGKysRZe6eYEGFN72r5Wdf+ wuJPcOC/oZL9QzLq7fgrKBekg6T+YA7dv/ItlVqtwaAT+uVnK+JAann/yeOWr7K3HCG/VN8yN hKj1WC99XYlBR0beXUu+TDpZ+hRa+jvlAtPeb36nE2Dx823sSJs7o15UJlNBoBKgAtRCW5HWf Y1WVdosi8fffWvwqoVqlgk6ZnISolZV8sN5cymUopKIwJtJg0usvZyUCMbLOSZgPDcqiv1nMP F3VNSbPmrgSrIfHbw0BFjIyT4Cd1T95HmXzLMpnW4LCVIv/TolbiKfv36eVGqC//CfJouRO/V jfGGf8ccNCsrx6wy5PPtCLlH7DCcUVKpQt4cDHhsn6G9wdEmEkyNQDRDL7odTgMd8nIEMQi2w zyPUvKdyxaELlb4SUzYtRG+9qgdymg+cYT+kNgxZ8dnSee03zjvo/P9Y7TzSgrweTE68xGuDF m9KQ1lw/Xiohq7urlKf+JWv4XkTVktHOR2y/znjP6Fx4uhVha3kNxk3X5izjtA9nm0+2ALxtY MZ6lELoyDm7XQ0MlH6537WnHzMWAbgBKLrWm3MCvN0FFJxvlmTJrWK44U2rUObaxjwh2wVWyZ RIqwVd41VbZokImOI8qGcvuFN5keyti5oTF0c5KYHz3mmqQYs54BGHMZOc+nbwzzAl5HxOiGu Zi8A/jPHQHju8ALnAVReesv+OLFPr1c4yULwRxAGKga3NGt7EkDANyjBNbFB/z8IB9EeiGRuz zyilGRnooU0p/wvThFV5+6WISG2p8tAbFi3MBjaQ8YzoktcldDSUdr8Kb5WfPZMZs9q4vOTgQ Y6GRhhAREpe93e0aUMJBoP1AD+5j0Ue/eX/Dbo4a0uieoBSrLnT+1TorDS4LFUQHTMvaMj3Cz A7Yx26OkVuhB1cPEOj/JFt8JOhQ2loX2MLDJNgdE9U6atycMOhcMU2sZ9GNgTI1mGb12LFeeT c1Y8iP0upjCO1HqrysxvvHCCV72izW38hO4PM1V94AupL6dX+HQqnKscijfveARwiRVTSOZrn pT/UWOgvAuVDyTg5QOsTds+/iVgY7FOElMHr2uqfUNUHOfJ5GeJ4zoZODCPhsdEtj9/S57Sea FMzOgkC8mFGHfTNQdjSQNn8s5kPfrdvTzE5R1dbVZaLnsnMDiINpzPsxeNX63dKGjgfTRFXaP K+Sl8M1zqgnG5ZVb36EgmH/5deDEQOnw4Euzb5jXKiY2XQrlCteIDTrGJl2FzSWgvBuXtYfIR BQqpQUmyOHUxLJR6Q5cYOe9iVOg4hUGfXghSkgrFskG5keTxaz4AwEFuskjZMNlne9bBuBSgX Opv5UhQv8xdZVgEY66KYi9mYCtx8= Am Freitag, dem 14.03.2025 um 08:54 +1100 schrieb Balbir Singh: > On 3/14/25 05:12, Bert Karwatzki wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, dem 13.03.2025 um 22:47 +1100 schrieb Balbir Singh: > > > > > > > > > Anyway, I think the nokaslr result is interesting, it seems like wit= h nokaslr > > > even the older kernels have problems with the game > > > > > > Could you confirm if with nokaslr > > > > > Now I've tested kernel 6.8.12 with nokaslr > > > > > 1. Only one single game stellaris is not working? > > > 2. The entire laptop does not work? > > > 3. Laptop works and other games work? Just one game is not working a= s > > expected? > > > > > > Stellaris is showing the input lag and the entire graphical user inter= face shows > > the same input lag as long as stellaris is running. > > Civilization 6 shows the same input lag as stellaris, probably even wo= rse. > > Magic the Gathering: Arena (with wine) works normally. > > Valheim also works normally. > > Crusader Kings 2 works normally > > Rogue Heroes: Ruins of Tasos (a Zelda lookalike) works normally. > > Baldur's Gate I & II and Icewind Dale work normally. > > > > Also the input lag is only in the GUI, if I switch to a text console (= ctrl + alt > > + Fn), input works normally even while the affected games are running. > > > > Games aside everything else (e.g. compiling kernels) seems to work wit= h nokaslr. > > > > Would it be fair to assume that anything Xorg/Wayland is working fine > when the game is not running, even with nokaslr? > Yes, Xorg (I'm normally using xfce4 as desktop) works fine. I also tested = with gnome using Xwayland, here the buggy behaviour also exists, with the addti= on that mouse position is off, i.e. to click a button in the game you have to= click somewhat above it. > +amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org to see if there are known issues with > nokaslr and the games you mentioned. > > > Balbir Singh > > PS: I came across an interesting link > https://www.alex-ionescu.com/behind-windows-x64s-44-bit-memory-addressin= g-limit/ > > I think SLIST_HEADER is used by wine as well for user space and I am not= sure > if in this situation the game is hitting this scenario, but surprisingly= the other > games are not. This is assuming the game uses wine. I am not sure it's r= elated, > but the 44 bits caught my attention. Stellaris is a native linux game (x86_64), the one game (MTGA) I tested wi= th wine worked fine. By the way, the warning [ T8562] WARNING: CPU: 14 PID: 8562 at mm/slub.c:5028 __kvmalloc_node_noprof+0x2fd/0x360 that appeared in the dmesg I sent you is caused by the upgrade of mesa fro= m 25.0.0 to 25.0.1. (I'm still bisecting ...) Bert Karwatzki