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From: "Thomas Weißschuh" <linux@weissschuh.net>
To: Joel Granados <j.granados@samsung.com>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Gustavo A. R. Silva" <gustavoars@kernel.org>,
	Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Iurii Zaikin <yzaikin@google.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/18] sysctl: constify sysctl ctl_tables
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2023 20:19:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fa911908-a14d-4746-a58e-caa7e1d4b8d4@t-8ch.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231207104357.kndqvzkhxqkwkkjo@localhost>

On 2023-12-07 11:43:57+0100, Joel Granados wrote:
> Hey Thomas
> 
> You have a couple of test bot issues for your 12/18 patch. Can you
> please address those for your next version.

I have these fixed locally, I assumed Luis would also pick them up
directly until I have a proper v2, properly should have communicated
that.

> On Mon, Dec 04, 2023 at 08:52:13AM +0100, Thomas Weißschuh wrote:
> > Problem description:
> > 
> > The kernel contains a lot of struct ctl_table throught the tree.
> > These are very often 'static' definitions.
> > It would be good to make the tables unmodifiable by marking them "const"
> Here I would remove "It would be good to". Just state it: "Make the
> tables unmodifiable...."

Ack.

> 
> > to avoid accidental or malicious modifications.
> > This is in line with a general effort to move as much data as possible
> > into .rodata. (See for example[0] and [1])

> If you could find more examples, it would make a better case.

I'll look for some. So far my constifications went in without them :-)

> > 
> > Unfortunately the tables can not be made const right now because the
> > core registration functions expect mutable tables.
> > 
> > This is for two main reasons:
> > 
> > 1) sysctl_{set,clear}_perm_empty_ctl_header in the sysctl core modify
> >    the table.
> > 2) The table is passed to the handler function as a non-const pointer.
> > 
> > This series migrates the core and all handlers.

> awesome!
> 
> > 
> > Structure of the series:
> > 
> > Patch 1-3:   Cleanup patches
> > Patch 4-7:   Non-logic preparation patches
> > Patch 8:     Preparation patch changing a bit of logic
> > Patch 9-12:  Treewide changes to handler function signature
> > Patch 13-14: Adaption of the sysctl core implementation
> > Patch 15:    Adaption of the sysctl core interface
> > Patch 16:    New entry for checkpatch
> > Patch 17-18: Constification of existing "struct ctl_table"s
> > 
> > Tested by booting and with the sysctl selftests on x86.
> > 
> > Note:
> > 
> > This is intentionally sent only to a small number of people as I'd like
> > to get some more sysctl core-maintainer feedback before sending this to
> > essentially everybody.

> When you do send it to the broader audience, you should chunk up your big
> patches (12/18 and 11/18) and this is why:
> 1. To avoid mail rejections from lists:
>    You have to tell a lot of people about the changes in one mail. That
>    will make mail header too big for some lists and it will be rejected.
>    This happened to me with [3]
> 2. Avoid being rejected for the wrong reasons :)
>    Maintainers are busy ppl and sending them a set with so many files
>    may elicit a rejection on the grounds that it involves too many
>    subsystems at the same time.
> I suggest you chunk it up with directories in mind. Something similar to
> what I did for [4] where I divided stuff that when for fs/*, kernel/*,
> net/*, arch/* and drivers/*. That will complicate your patch a tad
> because you have to ensure that the tree can be compiled/run for every
> commit. But it will pay off once you push it to the broader public.

This will break bisections. All function signatures need to be switched
in one step. I would strongly like to avoid introducing broken commits.

The fact that these big commits have no functional changes at all makes
me hope it can work.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-07 19:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20231204075237eucas1p27966f7e7da014b5992d3eef89a8fde25@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2023-12-04  7:52 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 01/18] watchdog/core: remove sysctl handlers from public header Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 02/18] sysctl: delete unused define SYSCTL_PERM_EMPTY_DIR Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 03/18] sysctl: drop sysctl_is_perm_empty_ctl_table Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-07 14:09     ` Joel Granados
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 04/18] cgroup: bpf: constify ctl_table arguments and fields Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 05/18] seccomp: constify ctl_table arguments of utility functions Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04 22:12     ` Kees Cook
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 06/18] hugetlb: " Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 07/18] utsname: constify ctl_table arguments of utility function Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 08/18] stackleak: don't modify ctl_table argument Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04 22:14     ` Kees Cook
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 09/18] sysctl: treewide: constify ctl_table_root::set_ownership Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 10/18] sysctl: treewide: constify ctl_table_root::permissions Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 11/18] sysctl: treewide: constify ctl_table_header::ctl_table_arg Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 12/18] sysctl: treewide: constify the ctl_table argument of handlers Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04 22:17     ` Kees Cook
2023-12-05  9:50     ` kernel test robot
2023-12-05 16:05     ` kernel test robot
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 13/18] sysctl: move sysctl type to ctl_table_header Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-05 22:33     ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-12-05 22:41       ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-05 22:50         ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-12-06  5:53           ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-07 12:14             ` Joel Granados
2023-12-07 19:29               ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-21 12:09             ` Joel Granados
2023-12-23 13:04               ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-24 18:51                 ` Joel Granados
2023-12-07 12:05           ` Joel Granados
2023-12-07 11:31     ` Joel Granados
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 14/18] sysctl: move internal interfaces to const struct ctl_table Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 15/18] sysctl: allow registration of " Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 16/18] const_structs.checkpatch: add ctl_table Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 17/18] sysctl: make ctl_table sysctl_mount_point const Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-04  7:52   ` [PATCH v2 18/18] sysctl: constify standard sysctl tables Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-05  5:50   ` [PATCH v2 00/18] sysctl: constify sysctl ctl_tables Luis Chamberlain
2023-12-05  8:04     ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-05 17:16       ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-05 22:27         ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-12-07 11:23           ` Joel Granados
2023-12-07 11:19         ` Joel Granados
2023-12-07 19:23           ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-07 11:05       ` Joel Granados
2023-12-07 10:43   ` Joel Granados
2023-12-07 19:19     ` Thomas Weißschuh [this message]
2023-12-08  9:59       ` Joel Granados
2023-12-11 11:25         ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-12  9:09           ` Joel Granados
2023-12-13  7:51             ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-12-15 16:40               ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-15 17:05                 ` Julia Lawall
2023-12-17 12:02               ` Joel Granados
2023-12-17 22:10                 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-18 21:21                   ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-12-19 19:29                     ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-12-19 20:39                       ` Julia Lawall
2023-12-19 21:09                       ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-12-19 21:21                         ` Julia Lawall
2023-12-20  0:09                           ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-12-20  7:39                             ` Julia Lawall
2023-12-20 14:34                               ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-12-19 23:04                         ` Julia Lawall
2023-12-21 12:44                       ` Joel Granados
     [not found]                     ` <CGME20231223120907eucas1p20afac63076e1e9d5aee6adaa101c0630@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2023-12-21 12:36                       ` Joel Granados
2023-12-21 12:12                   ` Joel Granados
2023-12-13  7:47           ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-12-13 18:18             ` Eric W. Biederman

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