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From: "Jürgen Groß" <jgross@suse.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, llvm@lists.linux.dev, Xin Li <xin@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
	Nick Desaulniers <nick.desaulniers+lkml@gmail.com>,
	Bill Wendling <morbo@google.com>,
	Justin Stitt <justinstitt@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 09/16] x86/msr: Use the alternatives mechanism for WRMSR
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2026 07:41:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fb1f688a-7e36-405c-879f-d786df99e367@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7F627940-578D-4EDF-9812-41DDF3275B4F@zytor.com>


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On 19.02.26 00:36, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On February 18, 2026 1:37:42 PM PST, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com> wrote:
>> On 2/18/26 13:00, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>>> On Wed, Feb 18, 2026, Juergen Gross wrote:
>>>> When available use one of the non-serializing WRMSR variants (WRMSRNS
>>>> with or without an immediate operand specifying the MSR register) in
>>>> __wrmsrq().
>>> Silently using a non-serializing version (or not) seems dangerous (not for KVM,
>>> but for the kernel at-large), unless the rule is going to be that MSR writes need
>>> to be treated as non-serializing by default.
>>
>> Yeah, there's no way we can do this in general. It'll work for 99% of
>> the MSRs on 99% of the systems for a long time. Then the one new system
>> with WRMSRNS is going to have one hell of a heisenbug that'll take years
>> off some poor schmuck's life.
>>
>> We should really encourage *new* code to use wrmsrns() when it can at
>> least for annotation that it doesn't need serialization. But I don't
>> think we should do anything to old, working code.
> 
> Correct. We need to do this on a user by user basis.

Then I'd prefer to introduce a new wrmsr_sync() function for the serializing
variant and to switch all current users which are not known to tolerate the
non-serializing form to it. The main advantage of that approach would be to
be able to use the immediate form where possible automatically.


Juergen

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  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-19  6:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-18  8:21 [PATCH v3 00/16] x86/msr: Inline rdmsr/wrmsr instructions Juergen Gross
2026-02-18  8:21 ` [PATCH v3 01/16] x86/alternative: Support alt_replace_call() with instructions after call Juergen Gross
2026-04-02 13:58   ` Juergen Gross
2026-02-18  8:21 ` [PATCH v3 02/16] coco/tdx: Rename MSR access helpers Juergen Gross
2026-02-18 14:11   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-02-18  8:21 ` [PATCH v3 03/16] x86/sev: Replace call of native_wrmsr() with native_wrmsrq() Juergen Gross
2026-02-18  8:21 ` [PATCH v3 04/16] KVM: x86: Remove the KVM private read_msr() function Juergen Gross
2026-02-18 14:21   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-02-18 14:29     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-02-18  8:21 ` [PATCH v3 05/16] x86/msr: Minimize usage of native_*() msr access functions Juergen Gross
2026-02-18  8:21 ` [PATCH v3 06/16] x86/msr: Move MSR trace calls one function level up Juergen Gross
2026-02-18  8:21 ` [PATCH v3 07/16] x86/opcode: Add immediate form MSR instructions Juergen Gross
2026-02-18  8:21 ` [PATCH v3 08/16] x86/extable: Add support for " Juergen Gross
2026-02-18 15:48   ` Andrew Cooper
2026-02-18 16:28     ` Jürgen Groß
2026-02-18  8:21 ` [PATCH v3 09/16] x86/msr: Use the alternatives mechanism for WRMSR Juergen Gross
2026-02-18 21:00   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-02-18 21:37     ` Dave Hansen
2026-02-18 23:36       ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-02-19  6:41         ` Jürgen Groß [this message]
2026-02-19  6:44       ` Jürgen Groß
2026-02-20 17:12         ` Xin Li
2026-02-20 17:32           ` Sean Christopherson
2026-02-20 17:40           ` Dave Hansen
2026-02-23 17:56             ` Xin Li
2026-02-23 21:34               ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-02-18  8:21 ` [PATCH v3 10/16] x86/msr: Use the alternatives mechanism for RDMSR Juergen Gross
2026-02-18 15:12   ` kernel test robot
2026-02-18 15:48     ` Juergen Gross
2026-02-18  8:21 ` [PATCH v3 11/16] x86/alternatives: Add ALTERNATIVE_4() Juergen Gross
2026-02-18  8:21 ` [PATCH v3 12/16] x86/paravirt: Split off MSR related hooks into new header Juergen Gross
2026-02-18  8:21 ` [PATCH v3 13/16] x86/paravirt: Prepare support of MSR instruction interfaces Juergen Gross
2026-02-18  8:21 ` [PATCH v3 14/16] x86/paravirt: Switch MSR access pv_ops functions to " Juergen Gross
2026-02-18  8:21 ` [PATCH v3 15/16] x86/msr: Reduce number of low level MSR access helpers Juergen Gross
2026-02-18  8:21 ` [PATCH v3 16/16] x86/paravirt: Use alternatives for MSR access with paravirt Juergen Gross
2026-02-18 13:49   ` kernel test robot
2026-02-18 15:49     ` Juergen Gross
2026-02-18 20:37 ` [PATCH v3 00/16] x86/msr: Inline rdmsr/wrmsr instructions H. Peter Anvin
2026-02-19  6:28   ` Jürgen Groß

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