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From: Jork Loeser <jloeser@linux.microsoft.com>
To: Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org>
Cc: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	 Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
	 Alexander Graf <graf@amazon.com>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	 Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jason Miu <jasonmiu@google.com>,
	 kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 02/18] kho: disallow wide keys in radix tree
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2026 15:06:05 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fb7ed559-557-b8c1-1f6-5f879feab0ec@linux.microsoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260605183501.3884950-3-pratyush@kernel.org>

On Fri, 5 Jun 2026, Pratyush Yadav wrote:

> From: "Pratyush Yadav (Google)" <pratyush@kernel.org>
>
> The KHO radix tree was designed to track preserved pages. So it does not
> provide the capability to track any 64-bit key. Instead, it limits the
> key width to how much it needs for tracking PFNs and their orders.
> Limiting the width reduces the number of levels in the tree.
>
> KHO is not expected to be the only user of the radix tree. With the API
> generalized to allow other users, now it is possible to add any key to
> the tree.
>
> Check the key width at kho_radix_add_key(), and error out if it exceeds
> what the tree can handle. Do this instead of increasing the tree depth
> since right now there are no users that need to use wider keys, so this
> avoids memory overhead and ABI breakage.
>
> Signed-off-by: Pratyush Yadav (Google) <pratyush@kernel.org>
> ---
> include/linux/kho/abi/kexec_handover.h |  8 ++++++++
> kernel/liveupdate/kexec_handover.c     | 12 ++++++++++++
> 2 files changed, 20 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/include/linux/kho/abi/kexec_handover.h b/include/linux/kho/abi/kexec_handover.h
> index fb2d37417ad9..6dbb98bfb586 100644
> --- a/include/linux/kho/abi/kexec_handover.h
> +++ b/include/linux/kho/abi/kexec_handover.h
> @@ -278,6 +278,14 @@ enum kho_radix_consts {
> 			     KHO_TABLE_SIZE_LOG2) + 1,
> };
>
> +/*
> + * The maximum key width this radix tree can track.
> + *
> + * This value isn't ABI itself, but it is derived from values that are ABI.
> + */
> +#define KHO_RADIX_KEY_WIDTH (((KHO_TREE_MAX_DEPTH - 1) * KHO_TABLE_SIZE_LOG2) + \
> +			     KHO_BITMAP_SIZE_LOG2)

Love the auto-derivation of these values, this totally makes sense. That 
said, my lazy brain complained a bit when I asked it "so how many bits can 
a consumer actually use?". So I wonder:

1) Why is the value not "ABI itself"; it feels like it should as it
    determines client behavior.

2) Would you consider expanding the actual values for the most relevant
    architectures (x86-64 w/ 4kb pages, arm64 w/ 4k/16/64k page-sizes) and
    put it in a block-comment?


> + * NOTE: Currently only keys of width up to %KHO_RADIX_KEY_WIDTH are supported.
> + * This limit only exists because current users of the radix tree don't use more
> + * than that. Changing the maximum width requires changing the tree depth, which
> + * needs bumping the ABI version.

It takes longer to walk the tree. The current implementation is a good 
tradeoff.

Best,
Jork

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-05 22:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-05 18:34 [PATCH v2 00/18] kho: make boot time huge page allocation work nicely with KHO Pratyush Yadav
2026-06-05 18:34 ` [PATCH v2 01/18] kho: generalize radix tree APIs Pratyush Yadav
2026-06-05 18:34 ` [PATCH v2 02/18] kho: disallow wide keys in radix tree Pratyush Yadav
2026-06-05 22:06   ` Jork Loeser [this message]
2026-06-08  9:10     ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-06-05 18:34 ` [PATCH v2 03/18] kho: return virtual address of mem_map Pratyush Yadav
2026-06-14 12:02   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-06-15 13:10     ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-06-05 18:34 ` [PATCH v2 04/18] kho: store incoming radix tree in kho_in Pratyush Yadav
2026-06-05 18:34 ` [PATCH v2 05/18] kho: move all memory retrieval logic to kho_mem_retrieve() Pratyush Yadav
2026-06-05 18:34 ` [PATCH v2 06/18] kho: add a struct for radix callbacks Pratyush Yadav
2026-06-05 18:34 ` [PATCH v2 07/18] kho: add callback for table pages Pratyush Yadav
2026-06-05 18:34 ` [PATCH v2 08/18] kho: add data argument to radix walk callback Pratyush Yadav
2026-06-05 18:34 ` [PATCH v2 09/18] kho: allow early-boot usage of the KHO radix tree Pratyush Yadav
2026-06-05 18:34 ` [PATCH v2 10/18] kho: allow destroying " Pratyush Yadav
2026-06-05 18:34 ` [PATCH v2 11/18] kho: add kho_radix_init_tree() Pratyush Yadav
2026-06-05 18:34 ` [PATCH v2 12/18] kho: export kho_scratch_overlap() Pratyush Yadav
2026-06-14 12:02   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-06-15 13:11     ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-06-05 18:34 ` [PATCH v2 13/18] kho: initialize kho_scratch pointer earlier in boot Pratyush Yadav
2026-06-05 18:34 ` [PATCH v2 14/18] memblock: use kho_scratch_overlap() to decide migratetype Pratyush Yadav
2026-06-14 12:02   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-06-15 13:19     ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-06-05 18:34 ` [PATCH v2 15/18] kho: extend scratch Pratyush Yadav
2026-06-14 12:02   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-06-15 13:28     ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-06-15 19:37       ` Mike Rapoport
2026-06-16 11:55         ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-06-05 18:34 ` [PATCH v2 16/18] memblock: make HugeTLB bootmem allocation work with KHO Pratyush Yadav
2026-06-14 12:02   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-06-15 13:35     ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-06-15 19:40       ` Mike Rapoport
2026-06-05 18:34 ` [PATCH v2 17/18] memblock: allow calculating reserved size by flags Pratyush Yadav
2026-06-14 12:02   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-06-15 13:35     ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-06-05 18:34 ` [PATCH v2 18/18] kho: exclude hugetlb memory from scratch size calculation Pratyush Yadav
2026-06-14 12:02 ` [PATCH v2 00/18] kho: make boot time huge page allocation work nicely with KHO Mike Rapoport
2026-06-15 13:36   ` Pratyush Yadav

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